Stuck on converting my Conservative HW

I have spent past 6 years making progress.

My wife and I grew up in the church. She is a stay at home mom and we have a fairly conservative home.

However, her and I years ago started having a bit more fun in bedroom when she admitted she was curious about toys. Started with a vibrator, then one of those pink dildos. It was fun but we kept pushing it. Soon it was realistic dildos and larger. Eventually, I got her up to 12” huge cocks. I began obsessed with seeing her take it and stretched. she’d cum all over it and I love seeing that cum. So I told her it would be extra hot to get a black one so I could see the white cum better. That got me really into the idea of her taking big black cocks.

This led also to me fucking her with it while she sucked me. I started saying, “you like taking two cocks? is that your fantasy? Multiple” I’d get moans and excitement.

Later this led to DP fun. She started enjoying having her holes filled at same time.

At the same time, I started sharing how I love when she dresses sexy. Especially bikinis. I even got her to wear a thong bikini twice but then she said she was uncomfortable and wont do it again.

Recently she bought a VERY short dress for date night. At the bar I got her to take her panties off and put it in my pocket.

On the drive home while it was raining I massaged her tits while she spread her legs and fucked herself in the car. When we got home the alcohol really was hitting. She full out was saying, “you’d like to watch your wife fucked” and “I wish I could be covered in cum” and so I role played beach fucking with others watching, a trip to vegas inviting a football team up.

At this point it is as far as I can get her. afterwards she says “sorry for that” and we need to “cool it down”.

Love to hear suggestions and how to inch it forward more without totally freaking her out. I want her to know I want to be a stag not a cuck and I get pleasure by watching her be a slut.

ps… I welcome tributes of you jerking to my wife. add to my collection to show her one of these days. especially if you are a BBC. I will reward you with more pictures.
 
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Damn she is super sexy, sounds like she is really close to taking the plunge, you just have to find the right guy and keep on making the situations that would lead to her doing it. Find the right guy who is patient and will not push her too hard.
 
Damn she is super sexy, sounds like she is really close to taking the plunge, you just have to find the right guy and keep on making the situations that would lead to her doing it. Find the right guy who is patient and will not push her too hard.
thanks,

I actually think she’d do better with strangers. Because then she could separate it. pretend it is fantasy land.
 
sounds like you are on the right course I do all these things with my wife I have her loving the blindfold now which works into role play of a stranger entering the room-we also talk and paln about going to sex club
 
Let's temper expectations here. Just because she has a few drinks and says things like that doesn't mean she is close to anything. It means she has deep seated inhibitions that the alcohol can penetrate. It also means that at some level she is excited by it.
The best path forward is the next time she says sorry I was like that, you say something like "I'm not it really turned me on". Don't hammer or badger her. Let her stew on that. She was off the chain wanton and you liked it. See if she will use the dildo and let you just watch. Then tell her how hot it was. Swoop in and eat that kitty like you are starving. They key is to create a dynamic where she doesn't feel like she is being judged by being sexual. Society puts all the pressure on women to maintain sexual purity. Boys just get to be boys. Once she feels like she can be sexual you can shepherd her along into more risque things. See if you can take pics. Then let her know you were jerking to those. Videos too. Make sure she knows you would never share those and betray her trust. Most importantly don't betray her trust. When she feels like she can trust you with her most personal and vulnerable self she will feel like she can trust you with more. DO NOT be one of these horn balls you will encounter here. Your wife will just shut down. Take your time and let it grow. If she is open to it, she will get there unless you get in her way. This forum is littered with posts by guys who got in there own way and destroyed not just any chance at being a cuck, but their sex life too
 
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Let's temper expectations here. Just because she has a few drinks and says things like that doesn't mean she is close to anything. It means she has deep seated inhibitions that the alcohol can penetrate. It also means that at some level she is excited by it.
The best path forward is the next time she says sorry I was like that, you say something like "I'm not it really turned me on". Don't hammer or badger her. Let her stew on that. She was off the chain wanton and you liked it. See if she will use the dildo and let you just watch. Then tell her how hot it was. Swoop in and eat that kitty like you are starving. They key is to create a dynamic where she doesn't feel like she is being judged by being sexual. Society puts all the pressure on women to maintain sexual purity. Boys just get to be boys. Once she feels like she can be sexual you can shepherd her along into more risque things. See if you can take pics. Then let her know you were jerking to those. Videos too. Make sure she knows you would never share those and betray her trust. Most importantly don't betray her trust. When she feels like she can trust you with her most personal and vulnerable self she will feel like she can trust you with more. DO NOT be one of these horn balls you will encounter here. Your wife will just shut down. Take your time and let it grow. If she is open to it, she will get there unless you get in her way. This forum is littered with posts by guys who got in there own way and destroyed not just any chance at being a cuck, but their sex life too
Great advice. Here is feedback: I have done the ""I'm not it really turned me on”, I also often watch her use the dildo and then after she cums eat her out. she loves that and says “are you ready for my cum” She also lets me take videos and pictures. I cum to them often and tell her. We watch them together. I focus in on the bbc dildo stretching her and she will cum to it with her vibrator While i stroke.
 
pic of her
She is very sexy.
Keep the role playing going. When she apologizes tell her no need to do that because it turns you on and you are comfortable with it. Then tell her you want to see her completely pleasured and happy. You love her and are willing to do anything she desires , which will only bring the two of closer and add more enjoyment to your lives.
Best of luck. Tell us more when progression occurs.
 
Great advice. Here is feedback: I have done the ""I'm not it really turned me on”, I also often watch her use the dildo and then after she cums eat her out. she loves that and says “are you ready for my cum"
That's perfect. A woman wants to feel attractive. You are creating a reward system. She does an action, you reward her. It sounds awful but that's how we learn. Keep at it. Make her feel sexy. Take her somewhere in public and make her feel like she is the center of your universe. Right there in a crowded room, kiss her neck. Hold her hand. Put you hand on her leg. You are declaring to every person in there that she is desirable. If you have some wood doing that, even better. Whisper that in her ear. Tell her that touching her give you a physical reaction. When a guy checks her out, quietly point it out. The more sexual she feels and the more you help her feel that way the more likely she will be to more.
 
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Sounds like she has fantasies around it but not all fantasies go on to become reality.

I’d keep the roll playing and fantasy playing as long as she wants. Let her guide it and read the room. If she’s not wanting to role play let it go for a bit then come back to it.

Get her out in bars and drinking especially around guys. Make excuses to leave her alone for a bit, bathroom visits cause the beer is going right through you, work calls, urgent friend/family calls she can’t track back, etc. that way she may talk flirt with guys which takes it a step further. Then let her know how excited watching her flirt made you cause she was so happy and excited her self like a new toy! Tell her she made that guys night by flirting with him as he’ll be thinking of you for a longgggg time while he jerks off if saying that won’t turn her off, etc.

I’m at this stage with my wife trying to take fun talk to real contact. Flirting is there so now I just gotta wait for the connection as my wife is very specific.
 
Sounds like she has fantasies around it but not all fantasies go on to become reality.

I’d keep the roll playing and fantasy playing as long as she wants. Let her guide it and read the room. If she’s not wanting to role play let it go for a bit then come back to it.

Get her out in bars and drinking especially around guys. Make excuses to leave her alone for a bit, bathroom visits cause the beer is going right through you, work calls, urgent friend/family calls she can’t track back, etc. that way she may talk flirt with guys which takes it a step further. Then let her know how excited watching her flirt made you cause she was so happy and excited her self like a new toy! Tell her she made that guys night by flirting with him as he’ll be thinking of you for a longgggg time while he jerks off if saying that won’t turn her off, etc.

I’m at this stage with my wife trying to take fun talk to real contact. Flirting is there so now I just gotta wait for the connection as my wife is very specific.
hot, I will try that
 
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hot, I will try that
Let me know how it works. Taking my wife to a hotel in Syracuse ny next weekend hoping they have a wedding or something there. Earlier in the year she even let me leave her alone in the bar while I checked in and brought luggage to room etc. she didn’t get to flirt but a few guys tried but their wife’s shut it down ASAP lol there was a family karate tournament nearby so it was all families. She was disappointed she didn’t get to flirt. Lol

So hoping now it’s summer they do weddings and receptions there. Assuming guys alone drinking at the bar should open opportunities to flirt and if a connection who knows…. Hoping. lol I told her before if she ever meets anyone she likes invite them to the room for a drink cause it’s free, nothing has to happen just a drink. She was open to the concept as I framed it that nothing has to happen. And I’d be there so I he needs to be forced to leave np. lol I’m more a stag than a cuck. I will not be shamed nor embarrassed I’m ok’ing my wife to fuck if she wants, not cause I feel inadequate.