Is this wife straying with the neighbor boy?

[nobs99]

This is one of those I wish were fictitious but hey no sense in sugar coating it, right? So here it goes.
To be frank, I dont know if the wife wants to play, this was totally speculative on my part and it all started after a sequences of events unfolded and got me paranoid. Even though, if you stick with the story until the end, something happened that essentially removed all doubts and it could be that part of me doesn't want to accept it? Being an over-thinker by nature, my reaction is, I want to drop the thought and focus on positive things. I just want clarity and or closure I guess.

As far as asking questions, the worst part is, I dont want to ask my wife who is 45, any questions about things that are causing me to be paranoid because, if I am wrong, then a who pandora's box is opened up to never be closed again I think.

Having my wife get with others is not a fantasy of mine but she did express curiosity about a female. So we discussed a threesome around 5 years ago, it would have been a female who would be brought into the fold and the female would be for the wife. But it never happened.

So I thought I would ask the opinion of folks who have seen a marriage go from normal to the wife starting to have extra curricular activities, be it out of her own volition, or maybe motivated by the husband. My situation is different from any other situation I have read here but maybe some of you might recognize this as you read the story, maybe you notice things that were said as "telling" about the wife wanting to play or whatever your opinion is. So thank you in advance for your insight and opinion.

Two years ago we moved from Seattle to a rural area in Texas and the nearest neighbor lives 1 mile from our ranch.
Since I travel for work, the wife stays at home with our baby and teaches online. Our neighbor is an older couple in the mid 60s and they had a 17 year old grandson living with them. Very peaceful setting, not one car drives through the remote area and all we hear are wild animals, birds etc.
After reading through a lot of the posts, it's clear that a lot of the husbands want to be a cuckold and go through a process to convince the wife and so on.
My wife and I never had this conversation and then after some time I had this feeling in my gut and in my mind and it kept popping up in my head, something odd is going on even though I can't put my finger on it. Cant explain, I have tried to nudge wife about discussing our intimacy and my goal is to see if there is anything I have missed that she might have tried to communicate to me about us and our sex life etc. Not a peep from her. Everything is fine honey, I love you honey etc. Our sex life has been ok and since the baby was born we had lots of ups and downs and I feel like she doesnt really open up with me. I just dont know. But oh well, I am not going to be paranoid and lose my mind over it.

The neighbors had asked me if the wife could tutor their grandson so he could improve his grades and she agreed especially because she would get paid for tutoring.
As we talked over the phone while I was away I would ask how things were going and she said that they were good and the neighbor kid improved his grades etc and is a polite kid and sometimes even helps around the house, walking the dogs, raking etc.

A week goes by and she has asked to take the week off and she tells me that she will keep tutoring the kid.
I said ok, I am sure you will be fine. Carry on as if nothing happened and focus on the tutoring thats all.

I did feel bad for not being there and thought she might be feeling vulnerable and not wanting to tell me about her being afraid of being alone in the remote ranch etc.
When I got back home I went ahead and had a company install a discreet security system with a few cameras and I would monitor it from my phone as I traveled just so that if I saw anything, I could contact someone for help, mainly law enforcement and maybe even the neighbors. I had a camera on each side of the house and three inside the house, one being on one end of the house and the other camera in the living room facing the other end of the house and the third one inside the babys room. That was the basic package and I could always upgrade and install more if need be. The cameras were installed discreetly which means that they are not seen and you only know they are there, if you saw them being installed as I did.

I never told the wife because I didnt want her to worry that I was worried about her being alone in the place and then she would try and talk to me and tell me to not worry about it, and on and on! So I thought, let this be discreet and if I feel the need to tell her in the near future, I can tell her.

Then about 2 weeks after that, she started talking about the kid in an odd way, I couldn't explain but I knew she didnt talk like that before, saying things like you know, this kid is turning into a little man already, he turned 18 and one day he shows up here smelling like alcohol, and talking about girls and all.
And I thought, really? Turning into a man? ok. Not necessarily a suspicious comment but it was just new coming from her. Or I was just paranoid.

Then a few days go by and she tells me he asked if she could teach him about girls and women because he doesn't seem to get it right with girls etc.
She asked what I thought about that. I said I dont know ,are you charging him for that? Will it be an extra subject or something?
Are you trained for teaching that or how is that going to go? She said I dont know, I will just tell him I am not qualified, you're right.

Anyway, my stomach was uneasy about the latest comments he had made to the wife and I was asking myself, do I tell her to stop tutoring this kid or what?
Is this going to become a point of contention and worry for everyone involved here? Then I just did what I do best, I left it alone. Focused on work because that was my job as the provider.

Then two weeks go by and on a Friday I call her to catch up and that my flight was confirmed for Sunday etc and she sounded and acted as if she was in a hurry and since I was going to dinner with my managers, we just hung up and I thought nothing of it. I asked about the baby and she said he was already in bed. alright, talk tomorrow then.

Then almost two hours later, I am back at the hotel and I have no idea why, but then again maybe it was the paranoia and the unanswered questions in my head but for the first time I thought let me check out the security system to make sure things are ok at home.

Well the camera pointed at the kitchen showed the wife and the kid at the table where they did the tutoring but I am guessing the tutoring was focused on wine tasting because that is what they were doing, drinking, laughing and carrying on and I am thinking, it was almost 9 PM there, shouldn't the kid be back home by now?
Then it occurred to me, why don't I call her and tell her I am back at the hotel and get the temperature of things at home. Then I thought about it some more and got an email from a manager, asking for a report. By the time I was done, I wanted to shower and go to bed because I was exhausted.

So I took a shower and got ready for bed and suddenly the wife gets up and heads to the bedroom so I am thinking she is about to take a bath and go to bed and the kid is leaving, going home and that's it. The wine tasting tutoring is over, this kid walks towards the bedroom, enter the bedroom then comes back out, and this time he is bringing with him the wine bottles, he closes the door and as much as I tried to stay awake and thought about calling her, more than two hours had passed, then the door swung open, out comes the kid again, this time naked and he went to the kitchen.

Then a few minutes after he went back into the bedroom, this time the door was left ajar so I was able to get some sound from mic in the living room. There were noises, muffled conversations, laughter, a clear word here and there, then a moan here and there a yelp a groan and I couldnt tell if porn was being watched in there or you know the real thing going on between the two. But exhaustion got the best of me and I passed out.

So looking back, a lot has changed and I am left to figure out what the heck is going on here. I want to ask her but part of me is afraid to ask because it might be that, things go to an extreme and we might have to divorce and how am I going to spend time with my kid, and the kid will end up being from a broken home etc.
Part of me wants things to remain as they are so our family dynamics remain the same and I get to be the father to my child and I didnt have myself. And there is another part of me saying: you know exactly what she is doing and she just doesn't care and give her the boot etc. A lot is going through my head but because this is my 4th marriage and my first child, I dont want to make a knee jerk decision and regret it later.My child is everything to me right now.

So please share your opinion and thank you for your thoughts.
Is she coming out of her shell and not sharing her decision because she is afraid of my reaction?
Is confronting her the best route?

 

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Well it seems obvious that if you had seen the guy go into your bedroom where you know that’s where your wife was, and you seen him close the door while he was bringing in wine with him and they were in there for 2 hours. Then you see him exit the same room completely naked going into the kitchen, and he goes back to the same room, and you can hear them laughing and talking, but most importantly, you hear moans, groans and the occasional Yelp.. YES!! Your wife and her tutor, WERE WITHOUT A DOUBT, HAVING SEX!! I’d like to know what the words were that you were able to make out clearly. So now you’re faced with a very big decision! Let me back up a little bit.. When she caught him fucking a horse, which actually from what I’ve read and heard, that it’s not really that uncommon for young man that is raised on a farm, and lives way out in the country, to have their first sexual experience, with a farm animal, I’ve heard that sheep are among the top of the list. And so after she caught him, and then brought it up to you that, he (supposedly), had asked her if she’d “teach” him about girls, (and women). From that statement alone, it sounds more like in fact, that it was actually her idea to “teach” him. 99.9% of 18 year old boys don’t bring up, “women” on their own usually, it’s about girls! Another thing, unless someone else has brought the subject up, boys are way too embarrassed to bring that up to an older woman! What makes more sense, is that an older woman might have brought the subject up to her husband first, and when he didn’t reply with a definitive, “no”! She might have just been a little more alright with the idea, or desire after all. She also may have seen a young stud with a huge cock big enough to fuck a horse with, and being that her husband is gone so often, and that she still gets lonely and horny, which is completely understandable, most likely found herself in the perfect situation, with the perfect reason, (teaching), or at the very least, an excuse to satisfy her own feelings or thoughts of guilt. I mean for all you know, she might be thinking and/or assuming that you’re cheating while you’re gone too.

 

[nobs99]

Now that was an eye opener. Responding in-line and in blue.

Well it seems obvious that if you had seen the guy go into your bedroom where you know that’s where your wife was, and you seen him close the door while he was bringing in wine with him and they were in there for 2 hours. Then you see him exit the same room completely naked going into the kitchen, and he goes back to the same room, and you can hear them laughing and talking, but most importantly, you hear moans, groans and the occasional Yelp.. YES!! Your wife and her tutor, WERE WITHOUT A DOUBT, HAVING SEX!!
wow. when you hear from someone else it sinks in a bit more and it makes me dizzy.
Sorry, she tutors him. Maybe I didnt explain that clearly. Regardless, I guess I was in denial and hoping the noises were from some sort of movie, porn or the like. Watching porn together is one but him rearranging her guts is very different. I guess there was no need for him to be naked if they we watching porn. It's more like they were making porn. My head feels numb right now.

I’d like to know what the words were that you were able to make out clearly.
Oh man I left those out because I thought it would be TMI but lets start with the part when she ended up face to face with the situation outdoors and found herself disrupting the kid in the middle of his first sexual experience with the farm animal, before actually seeing him and the animal she started to hear a unique sound coming from somewhere in the woods and it got closer and closer. It sounded like an animal was sighing or blowing lip bubbles, she got scared and considered turning around but in about half a block the noise alerted her to where the commotion came from. She saw the situation, she gasped loudly enough to startle him, he freaked out, jumped off his stool and sort of stumbled down to the ground and stayed down until she turned around and hurriedly returned home. As she described the situation and what she saw, she was laughing and joking, can you believe this etc.

She also mentioned about youngsters getting initiated sexually with an animal. I responded with: Oh great, sounds very hygienic, disease free and you dont need to take the animal on a date so good for him. I just wonder how his girlfriend, wife and future kids would like to hear that story. and she just said unbelievable I am in shock etc.
But then she goes: I will tell you that he at least practices safe animal sex. I asked how do you mean? She then said, despite things happening so fast I did see that he was wearing a condom. Then I said thank you for the info, I will make sure to get him a trophy for that.
And to solve the weird noise puzzle, apparently it was what us simple humans call "vaginal queefing." As the price charming would insert his penis into the horse a noise would be produced etc. For splits seconds before she gasped and startle him she might have seen him do a few pumps into his equine fiancee and maybe that is how she observed the protection, who knows.

Once in the bedroom the few words I recall were the following words or phrases in quotes and you can fill in the blanks and paraphrase I guess. something to the effect of she "yelp" sound "saw from afar" and maybe it was "like a horse" but up close its like a horse if not 'bigger than a horse" "my gosh" and "as big as an orange". Dont know what that means but after that, "cant" "too big". Based on that and hearing the other continuous sounds, screams and moans I thought it would make sense to be a porn movie but whatever. Now her statement saying that he is so helpful around the house always giving her a hand etc makes more sense. Apparently it wasnt just a "hand"


So now you’re faced with a very big decision! You think?

Let me back up a little bit.. When she caught him fucking a horse, which actually from what I’ve read and heard, that it’s not really that uncommon for young man that is raised on a farm, and lives way out in the country, to have their first sexual experience, with a farm animal, I’ve heard that sheep are among the top of the list. Jeez yuck

And so after she caught him, and then brought it up to you that, he (supposedly), had asked her if she’d “teach” him about girls, (and women). From that statement alone, it sounds more like in fact, that it was actually her idea to “teach” him. 99.9% of 18 year old boys don’t bring up, “women” on their own usually, it’s about girls! Interesting. then she basically seduced him you're implying? You got a point.

Another thing, unless someone else has brought the subject up, boys are way too embarrassed to bring that up to an older woman! What makes more sense, is that an older woman might have brought the subject up to her husband first, and when he didn’t reply with a definitive, “no”! oh boy I hadnt realized I had to have objected to her bringing up being asked to teach him about girls or females and if I didnt object vehemently, she would interpret that as a green light from me to go ahead and have sex with him. So Im partially a contributor and or enabler to this in your opinion? Now thats an angle.

She might have just been a little more alright with the idea, or desire after all. She also may have seen a young stud with a huge cock big enough to fuck a horse with, and being that her husband is gone so often, and that she still gets lonely and horny, which is completely understandable, most likely found herself in the perfect situation, with the perfect reason, (teaching), or at the very least, an excuse to satisfy her own feelings or thoughts of guilt. I mean for all you know, she might be thinking and/or assuming that you’re cheating while you’re gone too. interesting. yeah I wish I were banging asian chicks by the busload in california of course but work is so exhausting that the energy is just not there. Of course they turn me on but at my age I want my life uncomplicated. So I choose to not have sex outside my 4th marriage. I guess I am the only one thinking that way huh?

 

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nobs99, you seem like a really good guy and please don’t forget that I’m just throwing things out there, that would automatically go through my head, if I were in your shoes. Of course if I were in your shoes, I’d be so turned on by all the possibilities that might be happening, and I’d be sure to add another camera to the bedroom first thing! Now it’s important for me to tell you, “IF” something is going on, that you haven’t done anything wrong and are not responsible for anything! Also, it doesn’t mean that my personal interpretation is true, or maybe at least not all of it anyway. Now as for the parts of what you heard, “something to the effect of she "yelp" sound "saw from afar" and maybe it was "like a horse" but up close its like a horse if not 'bigger than a horse" "my gosh" and "as big as an orange". Dont know what that means but after that, "cant" "too big".” The first question I have is, do you have a dog, or was there a dog in the house that night?? I know, I know, it sounds crazy, but what it almost sounds like to me, based on what words she’s saying and using, along with the yelps, it almost sounds like the same words and sounds I’ve heard from watching a video about, “bestiality.” Or to put it more bluntly, it’s when a woman allows a male dog to mount her, and letting his penis penetrate her! It’s kind of gross to watch, but you can look it up yourself and you’ll almost hear those exact words. Now if you don’t have a dog and didn’t see one there, does your neighbor have a male dog? If that’s the case, they may have very well been watching a movie, unfortunately there’s always the possibility, that they were watching a recording of her, being taken at a different time.

 

[nobs99]

nobs99, you seem like a really good guy and please don’t forget that I’m just throwing things out there, that would automatically go through my head, if I were in your shoes. Of course if I were in your shoes, I’d be so turned on by all the possibilities that might be happening, and I’d be sure to add another camera to the bedroom first thing! Now it’s important for me to tell you, “IF” something is going on, that you haven’t done anything wrong and are not responsible for anything! Also, it doesn’t mean that my personal interpretation is true, or maybe at least not all of it anyway. Now as for the parts of what you heard, “something to the effect of she "yelp" sound "saw from afar" and maybe it was "like a horse" but up close its like a horse if not 'bigger than a horse" "my gosh" and "as big as an orange". Dont know what that means but after that, "cant" "too big".” The first question I have is, do you have a dog, or was there a dog in the house that night?? I know, I know, it sounds crazy, but what it almost sounds like to me, based on what words she’s saying and using, along with the yelps, it almost sounds like the same words and sounds I’ve heard from watching a video about, “bestiality.” Or to put it more bluntly, it’s when a woman allows a male dog to mount her, and letting his penis penetrate her! It’s kind of gross to watch, but you can look it up yourself and you’ll almost hear those exact words. Now if you don’t have a dog and didn’t see one there, does your neighbor have a male dog? If that’s the case, they may have very well been watching a movie, unfortunately there’s always the possibility, that they were watching a recording of her, being taken at a different time.

as far dogs we have two tiny chihuahuas and the person does not have a dog. I am glad you've enjoyed the story and it turns you on. I heard of a book called sex at dawn I think and it has to do with women having hypergamy I believe and I am listening to it. If this is true, every woman sleeps around. have you heard of this book? wow. At 47 I guess I am clueless. thanks for your perspective. You can enjoy this whole situation vicariously I guess.

 

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Now about this part...
“before actually seeing him and the animal she started to hear a unique sound coming from somewhere in the woods and it got closer and closer. It sounded like an animal was sighing or blowing lip bubbles, she got scared and considered turning around but in about half a block the noise alerted her to where the commotion came from. She saw the situation, she gasped loudly enough to startle him, he freaked out, jumped off his stool and sort of stumbled down to the ground and stayed down until she turned around and hurriedly returned home. As she described the situation and what she saw, she was laughing and joking, can you believe this etc.

She also mentioned about youngsters getting initiated sexually with an animal. I responded with: Oh great, sounds very hygienic, disease free and you dont need to take the animal on a date so good for him. I just wonder how his girlfriend, wife and future kids would like to hear that story. and she just said unbelievable I am in shock etc.
But then she goes: I will tell you that he at least practices safe animal sex. I asked how do you mean? She then said, despite things happening so fast I did see that he was wearing a condom. Then I said thank you for the info, I will make sure to get him a trophy for that.
And to solve the weird noise puzzle, apparently it was what us simple humans call "vaginal queefing." As the price charming would insert his penis into the horse a noise would be produced etc. For splits seconds before she gasped and startle him she might have” My first question is who or how did you come up with... “And to solve the weird noise puzzle, apparently it was what us simple humans call "vaginal queefing." As the price charming would insert his penis into the horse a noise would be produced etc.” Now based on what she’s saying, “IF” she would have happened to come across this kid, standing on a stool, while having a romantic night, outside and under the moon with his date, personally, I think she would have known and realized what was happening, and therefore she would have, “saw from afar.” and would have turned around and immediately and as quietly as possible, and would have “hurriedly returned home.” But yet based on what she said, she was not only close enough to hear a queefing sound, which I find kinda hard to believe that his cock is big enough to make a female horses vagina queef, but also to not only see his cock, but to see it close enough, and long enough to notice he was wearing a condom??? And that makes me question how she wouldn’t have heard him breathing loudly, moaning or groaning, or at least hear his body as it slapped against the horse, why would he be wearing a condom anyway? Because it feels better, or so the horse doesn’t get pregnant?? In all honesty, something just isn’t sitting right with me!! So my mind makes me question 3 things.. #1. Was a dog present that night you seen them? #2. Maybe he’s the one that she was actually talking about when you heard, “something to the effect of she "yelp" sound "saw from afar" and maybe it was "like a horse" but up close its like a horse if not 'bigger than a horse" "my gosh" and "as big as an orange". Dont know what that means but after that, "cant" "too big".” Could have very well all been references from her, talking about the young one.(Most likely scenario)! Which then leaves us with #3. That everything she’s told you is completely backwards. That she was the one that was actually caught, and that her whole description of him, from being on a stool, falling down, and staying down after being startled, was actually because he was secretly watching her, and when you’re wife caught him spying, that’s what caused everything. Might even explain the whole condom equation, he might have been watching her and was using a condom to jack off into, I know this from personal experience, and that the queef sound, might have come from the air in the condom, or from when he was filling it while cumming in it. I’ll wait to hear back from those questions before continuing any further bro!

 

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as far dogs we have two tiny chihuahuas and the person does not have a dog. I am glad you've enjoyed the story and it turns you on. I heard of a book called sex at dawn I think and it has to do with women having hypergamy I believe and I am listening to it. If this is true, every woman sleeps around. have you heard of this book? wow. At 47 I guess I am clueless. thanks for your perspective. You can enjoy this whole situation vicariously I guess.

No I’ve never heard of it. Brother, I feel for you man, I didn’t mean to make it sound like I’m enjoying it, I truly feel bad for you and what an awful situation you’re dealing with! I’m only telling you those kind of things to try to help and maybe make it easier for you to come to terms with. It’s very possible that you’re going to end up having to make a decision, a very important decision! To go along with it someway, or to walk away. Just remember, make certain that you have concrete proof before making any decision whatsoever!!

 

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as far dogs we have two tiny chihuahuas and the person does not have a dog. I am glad you've enjoyed the story and it turns you on. I heard of a book called sex at dawn I think and it has to do with women having hypergamy I believe and I am listening to it. If this is true, every woman sleeps around. have you heard of this book? wow. At 47 I guess I am clueless. thanks for your perspective. You can enjoy this whole situation vicariously I guess.

Is either of the dogs a male?

 

[nobs99]

Is either of the dogs a male?

no females

 

[nobs99]

No I’ve never heard of it. Brother, I feel for you man, I didn’t mean to make it sound like I’m enjoying it, I truly feel bad for you and what an awful situation you’re dealing with! I’m only telling you those kind of things to try to help and maybe make it easier for you to come to terms with. It’s very possible that you’re going to end up having to make a decision, a very important decision! To go along with it someway, or to walk away. Just remember, make certain that you have concrete proof before making any decision whatsoever!!

hey man I appreciate the insight, and effort to help me. I have no friends and no one to talk to. It doesnt bother me at all if youre enjoying the story. to each his own. Thats exactly what I was curious to hear, perspectives from folks who could see through my paranoia, perhaps her bullshit.
we have two female dogs. and the book is fairly new.

 

[nobs99]

Now about this part...
“before actually seeing him and the animal she started to hear a unique sound coming from somewhere in the woods and it got closer and closer. It sounded like an animal was sighing or blowing lip bubbles, she got scared and considered turning around but in about half a block the noise alerted her to where the commotion came from. She saw the situation, she gasped loudly enough to startle him, he freaked out, jumped off his stool and sort of stumbled down to the ground and stayed down until she turned around and hurriedly returned home. As she described the situation and what she saw, she was laughing and joking, can you believe this etc.

She also mentioned about youngsters getting initiated sexually with an animal. I responded with: Oh great, sounds very hygienic, disease free and you dont need to take the animal on a date so good for him. I just wonder how his girlfriend, wife and future kids would like to hear that story. and she just said unbelievable I am in shock etc.
But then she goes: I will tell you that he at least practices safe animal sex. I asked how do you mean? She then said, despite things happening so fast I did see that he was wearing a condom. Then I said thank you for the info, I will make sure to get him a trophy for that.
And to solve the weird noise puzzle, apparently it was what us simple humans call "vaginal queefing." As the price charming would insert his penis into the horse a noise would be produced etc. For splits seconds before she gasped and startle him she might have” My first question is who or how did you come up with... “And to solve the weird noise puzzle, apparently it was what us simple humans call "vaginal queefing." As the price charming would insert his penis into the horse a noise would be produced etc.” Now based on what she’s saying, “IF” she would have happened to come across this kid, standing on a stool, while having a romantic night, outside and under the moon with his date, personally, I think she would have known and realized what was happening, and therefore she would have, “saw from afar.” and would have turned around and immediately and as quietly as possible, and would have “hurriedly returned home.” But yet based on what she said, she was not only close enough to hear a queefing sound, which I find kinda hard to believe that his cock is big enough to make a female horses vagina queef, but also to not only see his cock, but to see it close enough, and long enough to notice he was wearing a condom??? And that makes me question how she wouldn’t have heard him breathing loudly, moaning or groaning, or at least hear his body as it slapped against the horse, why would he be wearing a condom anyway? Because it feels better, or so the horse doesn’t get pregnant?? In all honesty, something just isn’t sitting right with me!! So my mind makes me question 3 things.. #1. Was a dog present that night you seen them? #2. Maybe he’s the one that she was actually talking about when you heard, “something to the effect of she "yelp" sound "saw from afar" and maybe it was "like a horse" but up close its like a horse if not 'bigger than a horse" "my gosh" and "as big as an orange". Dont know what that means but after that, "cant" "too big".” Could have very well all been references from her, talking about the young one.(Most likely scenario)! Which then leaves us with #3. That everything she’s told you is completely backwards. That she was the one that was actually caught, and that her whole description of him, from being on a stool, falling down, and staying down after being startled, was actually because he was secretly watching her, and when you’re wife caught him spying, that’s what caused everything. Might even explain the whole condom equation, he might have been watching her and was using a condom to jack off into, I know this from personal experience, and that the queef sound, might have come from the air in the condom, or from when he was filling it while cumming in it. I’ll wait to hear back from those questions before continuing any further bro!

now youre splitting hairs which I dont mind and again, different twists and nuances which could very well be. At this point it doesnt matter what the truth is but on a meta level I think I was shown that she had sex with the kid because why was he naked in the bedroom?

She is omitting the real story here and I will refrain from trying to hash it out. I see it as a waste of time. as far as what you said about the size of his dick and if could make the horse queef, I am not good at looking at things and approximating size and measurement and I dont look at men that way oh I see his dick lets measure it. a different size is a different size, but I think it was on the big side way bigger than mine for sure but also like a hook or boomerang or to the side crooked. When in high school I had a friend like that down to his knees but I got more girls than him. way more. he only got hookers and they would go into a room only to have the hookers get out of there like a bat out of hell so, didnt look like a great benefit to have a big penis. That is how I was programmed. My friend tried to hook up with a cute roommate we had and she approached me about hooking up so again multiple examples. Anyway, that was my reality and my perception of the world. What youre deducing could very well be the real scenario too. who knows. Now I am sure there are ladies who much rather have an freak horse size wang and that is totally cool with me. I work with what I have and applaud anyone who can drive a boat with his shaft lol

 

[nobs99]

No I’ve never heard of it. Brother, I feel for you man, I didn’t mean to make it sound like I’m enjoying it, I truly feel bad for you and what an awful situation you’re dealing with! I’m only telling you those kind of things to try to help and maybe make it easier for you to come to terms with. It’s very possible that you’re going to end up having to make a decision, a very important decision! To go along with it someway, or to walk away. Just remember, make certain that you have concrete proof before making any decision whatsoever!!

bro please I dont mind at all if this turns you on. you can enjoy it lol relax. its wife number 4 so I have made these decisions before. Maybe I should marry again. just date. again this is different phase in my life and it's all about my child and saving for retirement

 

[btweets]

Yeah I might have went just a bit off there, but then again, I think of all possibilities, and then start deleting one theory at a time until I’m left with the only logical conclusion. I would definitely install another camera in the bedroom though for sure. I’m afraid to say it, but I believe my first opinion and initial response was just too clearly obvious. Keep me posted on what you decide to do or how you decide to handle it, good luck and don’t make any decisions too quickly, or when you’re upset! I will also tell you that sometimes, believe it or not, make relationships even better and stronger! Please reach out, if you’re interested in hearing some possible ways to help get you through this.

 

[nobs99]

You are analytical that is for sure. You're like Elon Musk but about relationships. I like to establish rules early on and trust they will be followed. If they arent, cool. the problem is my child. I come from a broken home and I wanted the kid to have both parents. As far as another camera, yes makes sense. I like to gather data, evidence because by now there are assets and I am sure a lawyer could masturbate to the evidence I am planning to gather.
But listen man, enough about me, tell me about you and your better half dreams goals, aspirations etc And YES I am interested in hearing some possible ways to help get through this. thank you so much.

 

[btweets]

Thanks for asking bro, but I’m going to get some sleep, but we’ll definitely chat again soon! Have a good one until then, Bill

 

[nobs99]

Thanks for asking bro, but I’m going to get some sleep, but we’ll definitely chat again soon! Have a good one until then, Bill

Yep you too Bill, Demetrius

bro please I dont mind at all if this turns you on. you can enjoy it lol relax. its wife number 4 so I have made these decisions before. Maybe I should marry again. just date. again this is different phase in my life and it's all about my child and saving for retirement

bro please I dont mind at all if this turns you on. you can enjoy it lol relax. its wife number 4 so I have made these decisions before. Maybe I should marry again. just date. again this is different phase in my life and it's all about my child and saving for retirement

here is the book in 4 minutes https://fourminutebooks.com/sex-at-dawn-summary/

 

[nobs99]

Yeah I might have went just a bit off there, but then again, I think of all possibilities, and then start deleting one theory at a time until I’m left with the only logical conclusion. I would definitely install another camera in the bedroom though for sure. I’m afraid to say it, but I believe my first opinion and initial response was just too clearly obvious. Keep me posted on what you decide to do or how you decide to handle it, good luck and don’t make any decisions too quickly, or when you’re upset! I will also tell you that sometimes, believe it or not, make relationships even better and stronger! Please reach out, if you’re interested in hearing some possible ways to help get you through this.

yeah so there's video now, pictures can be extracted from it etc but whatever. its business as usual.
Ok Bill, I have no one else to talk about this with and you offered to help so please do, thank you. I can deal with women being hypergamous or whatever. Maybe I wasnt a perfect hubby but whatever I had a weakness for other women but now my focus is making money and my toddler. You had said to me: "I will also tell you that sometimes, believe it or not, make relationships even better and stronger! Please reach out, if you’re interested in hearing some possible ways to help get you through this." I want my baby to have a mother. Prefer to not have a broken home. From which both the wife and myself come from.

 

[hardwetcouple]

Just sit back and watch the young boy enjoy your wife's pussy.. Or join in and you both enjoy her pussy...

 

[nobs99]

Just sit back and watch the young boy enjoy your wife's pussy.. Or join in and you both enjoy her pussy...

great thinking and thanks for the suggestion but I'd prefer to let her enjoy her escapade and maybe I just go be with another woman. let her think I am not aware of anything. live and learn. but for a husband who enjoys that kind of situation, Im sure it'd be tons of fun.
it sounds like you folks would be delighted to have a scenario like that play out.
In the last few weeks I have done a lot of thinking as the wife traveled to see relatives in another state and the more I read on this forum and "ourhotwives", the more strange it felt. As if I am abnormal or I am a blacksheep? Funny.
I asked myself why am I am not like the folks here? Maybe there is a switch in me that can be turned on and I could play along? But nothing.

Then I had this feeling of inadequacy or just being an odd man out. But after a day I was able to come to grips with the fact that I am who I am and it's ok. Diversity, variety, different ideas, thoughts and desires can be looked at as the spice of life I am rationalizing.

It's just that I am too territorial and couldn't fathom having another man anywhere near my woman. Too possessive and the vagina is mine and mine only type of mindset...At my age the penny is starting to drop about my wife who knows how I am, to avoid rocking the boat, does whatever she does without my knowledge to keep things status quo and life goes on.

While I "want" no other dude poking my wife [yeah good luck with that right? lol], I admit that I have a deep desire to poke married ladies. And the struggle continues...

 

[Austintex69]

This is one of those I wish were fictitious but hey no sense in sugar coating it, right? So here it goes.
To be frank, I dont know if the wife wants to play, this was totally speculative on my part and it all started after a sequences of events unfolded and got me paranoid. Even though, if you stick with the story until the end, something happened that essentially removed all doubts and it could be that part of me doesn't want to accept it? Being an over-thinker by nature, my reaction is, I want to drop the thought and focus on positive things. I just want clarity and or closure I guess.

As far as asking questions, the worst part is, I dont want to ask my wife who is 45, any questions about things that are causing me to be paranoid because, if I am wrong, then a who pandora's box is opened up to never be closed again I think.

Having my wife get with others is not a fantasy of mine but she did express curiosity about a female. So we discussed a threesome around 5 years ago, it would have been a female who would be brought into the fold and the female would be for the wife. But it never happened.

So I thought I would ask the opinion of folks who have seen a marriage go from normal to the wife starting to have extra curricular activities, be it out of her own volition, or maybe motivated by the husband. My situation is different from any other situation I have read here but maybe some of you might recognize this as you read the story, maybe you notice things that were said as "telling" about the wife wanting to play or whatever your opinion is. So thank you in advance for your insight and opinion.

Two years ago we moved from Seattle to a rural area in Texas and the nearest neighbor lives 1 mile from our ranch.
Since I travel for work, the wife stays at home with our baby and teaches online. Our neighbor is an older couple in the mid 60s and they had a 17 year old grandson living with them. Very peaceful setting, not one car drives through the remote area and all we hear are wild animals, birds etc.
After reading through a lot of the posts, it's clear that a lot of the husbands want to be a cuckold and go through a process to convince the wife and so on.
My wife and I never had this conversation and then after some time I had this feeling in my gut and in my mind and it kept popping up in my head, something odd is going on even though I can't put my finger on it. Cant explain, I have tried to nudge wife about discussing our intimacy and my goal is to see if there is anything I have missed that she might have tried to communicate to me about us and our sex life etc. Not a peep from her. Everything is fine honey, I love you honey etc. Our sex life has been ok and since the baby was born we had lots of ups and downs and I feel like she doesnt really open up with me. I just dont know. But oh well, I am not going to be paranoid and lose my mind over it.

The neighbors had asked me if the wife could tutor their grandson so he could improve his grades and she agreed especially because she would get paid for tutoring.
As we talked over the phone while I was away I would ask how things were going and she said that they were good and the neighbor kid improved his grades etc and is a polite kid and sometimes even helps around the house, walking the dogs, raking etc.

Then a few days later she calls me terrified saying that she had gone for a walk down this deserted country road and when she got to the most remote part where there was amore dense vegetation, as in tall bushes and trees she saw a horse she thought but did a second take and saw the neighbor kid having sex with the horse, she saw him, he looked over at her and took his thing out of the horse and tried to hide. Apparently he used some type of stool to reach the female horse's entrance and he jumped off the stool jumps on the ground, trying to hide but by that time, the cat was out of the bag.

She talks about being terrified, disgusted and not wanting to tutor the kid anymore etc. I said I dont know what to tell you. People do those kinds of things and had you not gone for a walk at that certain time or had you gone in the opposite direction you might have never known about the kids love affair with a female horse so you have to decide if you want to keep him as a tutoring client or not.

A week goes by and she has asked to take the week off and she tells me that she will keep tutoring the kid. she was still dumbfounded but will try to not think about it etc.
I said ok, I am sure you will be fine. Carry on as if nothing happened and focus on the tutoring thats all.

I did feel bad for not being there and thought she might be feeling vulnerable and not wanting to tell me about her being afraid of being alone in the remote ranch etc.
When I got back home I went ahead and had a company install a discreet security system with a few cameras and I would monitor it from my phone as I traveled just so that if I saw anything, I could contact someone for help, mainly law enforcement and maybe even the neighbors. I had a camera on each side of the house and three inside the house, one being on one end of the house and the other camera in the living room facing the other end of the house and the third one inside the babys room. That was the basic package and I could always upgrade and install more if need be. The cameras were installed discreetly which means that they are not seen and you only know they are there, if you saw them being installed as I did.

I never told the wife because I didnt want her to worry that I was worried about her being alone in the place and then she would try and talk to me and tell me to not worry about it, and on and on! So I thought, let this be discreet and if I feel the need to tell her in the near future, I can tell her.

Then about 2 weeks after that, she started talking about the kid in an odd way, I couldn't explain but I knew she didnt talk like that before, saying things like you know, this kid is turning into a little man already, he turned 18 and one day he shows up here smelling like alcohol, and talking about girls and all.
And I thought, really? Turning into a man? ok. Not necessarily a suspicious comment but it was just new coming from her. Or I was just paranoid.

Then a few days go by and she tells me he asked if she could teach him about girls and women because he doesn't seem to get it right with girls etc.
She asked what I thought about that. I said I dont know ,are you charging him for that? Will it be an extra subject or something?
Are you trained for teaching that or how is that going to go? She said I dont know, I will just tell him I am not qualified, you're right.

Anyway, my stomach was uneasy about the latest comments he had made to the wife and I was asking myself, do I tell her to stop tutoring this kid or what?
Is this going to become a point of contention and worry for everyone involved here? Then I just did what I do best, I left it alone. Focused on work because that was my job as the provider.

Then two weeks go by and on a Friday I call her to catch up and that my flight was confirmed for Sunday etc and she sounded and acted as if she was in a hurry and since I was going to dinner with my managers, we just hung up and I thought nothing of it. I asked about the baby and she said he was already in bed. alright, talk tomorrow then.

Then almost two hours later, I am back at the hotel and I have no idea why, but then again maybe it was the paranoia and the unanswered questions in my head but for the first time I thought let me check out the security system to make sure things are ok at home.

Well the camera pointed at the kitchen showed the wife and the kid at the table where they did the tutoring but I am guessing the tutoring was focused on wine tasting because that is what they were doing, drinking, laughing and carrying on and I am thinking, it was almost 9 PM there, shouldn't the kid be back home by now?
Then it occurred to me, why don't I call her and tell her I am back at the hotel and get the temperature of things at home. Then I thought about it some more and got an email from a manager, asking for a report. By the time I was done, I wanted to shower and go to bed because I was exhausted.

So I took a shower and got ready for bed and suddenly the wife gets up and heads to the bedroom so I am thinking she is about to take a bath and go to bed and the kid is leaving, going home and that's it. The wine tasting tutoring is over, this kid walks towards the bedroom, enter the bedroom then comes back out, and this time he is bringing with him the wine bottles, he closes the door and as much as I tried to stay awake and thought about calling her, more than two hours had passed, then the door swung open, out comes the kid again, this time naked and he went to the kitchen.

Then a few minutes after he went back into the bedroom, this time the door was left ajar so I was able to get some sound from mic in the living room. There were noises, muffled conversations, laughter, a clear word here and there, then a moan here and there a yelp a groan and I couldnt tell if porn was being watched in there or you know the real thing going on between the two. But exhaustion got the best of me and I passed out.

So looking back, a lot has changed and I am left to figure out what the heck is going on here. I want to ask her but part of me is afraid to ask because it might be that, things go to an extreme and we might have to divorce and how am I going to spend time with my kid, and the kid will end up being from a broken home etc.
Part of me wants things to remain as they are so our family dynamics remain the same and I get to be the father to my child and I didnt have myself. And there is another part of me saying: you know exactly what she is doing and she just doesn't care and give her the boot etc. A lot is going through my head but because this is my 4th marriage and my first child, I dont want to make a knee jerk decision and regret it later.My child is everything to me right now.

So please share your opinion and thank you for your thoughts.
Is she coming out of her shell and not sharing her decision because she is afraid of my reaction?
Is confronting her the best route?

This is one of those story that couldn't be made up even if one tried...you need to come back with part two. But I'd like to ask you, you seem to love your wife and kid very much and worries about breaking up the family, is this something would think you could live with going forward? Could this be a turn on for you just watch the action while you're away? Please don't tell her you install cameras in the home she'll turn this whole thing around on you so be very careful not to share that information. Good luck and keep us informed.