Survey

[Manuel9309728]

Hola, solo quería hacer una encuesta. He estado pensando en diferentes aspectos del fetiche y tengo curiosidad por saber qué disfrutan o no otras personas y pensé que algunos de ustedes también sentirían curiosidad. Entonces responda sí, no, neutral o inseguro a lo siguiente. (Sí significa que te gusta, no significa que no te gusta, neutral significa que eres indiferente o inseguro)

1. ¿Te gustaría un aspecto de humillación?
2. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera superior a ti? (matón, propietario, jefe, etc.)
3. ¿Te gustaría conocer personalmente al toro? (amigo, compañero de trabajo, etc.)
4. ¿Te gustaría unirte al sexo? (trío contigo y toro)
5. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja te contara su experiencia sexual?
6. ¿Le gustaría estar en una habitación cercana y escuchar a su pareja tener relaciones sexuales?
7. ¿Te gustaría recibir fotos o videos de tu pareja teniendo relaciones sexuales?
8. ¿Te gustaría ver a tu pareja tener relaciones sexuales en persona? (como espectador)
9. ¿Te gustaría "recuperar" a tu pareja después de tener relaciones sexuales con alguien?
10. ¿Le gustaría que su pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales sin protección? (suponiendo que no haya enfermedades de transmisión sexual)
11. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja recibiera un creampie?
12. Si respondiste sí a la pregunta 9, ¿te gustaría que tu pareja se duche primero antes de reclamarlo?
13. ¿Quieres saber cómo es la cara del toro?
14. ¿Prefieres que el toro sea de una raza determinada? (si es así, ¿qué raza(s))
15. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga un determinado nivel de forma física?
16. ¿Prefiere que el toro sea atractivo en general?
17. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga la polla grande?
18. ¿Prefiere que el toro tenga cierta personalidad?
19. ¿Quieres que tu pareja se sienta atraída esencialmente por el toro?
20. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga más o menos la misma edad que tu pareja?
21. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera considerablemente mayor que tu pareja?
22. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera sexo con un toro poco atractivo?
23. ¿Te gustaría seleccionar el outfit que usa tu pareja en una cita?
24. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera "difícil de conseguir"?
25. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera guarra? (fácil)
26. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera dominada por un toro?
27. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja viera el mismo toro varias veces? (relación a largo plazo con ellos)
28. ¿Le gustaría que su pareja saliera con varias parejas sexuales? (más de un toro)
29. ¿Te gustaría la idea de que tu pareja quede embarazada de otra persona?
30. ¿Te gustaría la idea de que tu pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales con alguien que está embarazada?
31. ¿Te gusta cuando el toro es un completo desconocido?
32. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera superior a tu compañero? (su jefe, etc.)
33. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja te engañara? (si no sabían de tu fetiche)
34. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales con uno de sus ex?
35. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja se fuera de vacaciones sin ti y tuviera sexo con otras personas?
36. ¿Alguna vez has tenido una experiencia con una pareja teniendo relaciones sexuales con otra persona?
37. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera una conexión emocional con un toro además de físico?


Mis respuestas:
1. Algunas veces sólo para mí esposa
2. Neutro
3. Si por qué no
4. Sería sólo en pocas ocasiones
5. Si lo que ha disfrutado
6. Sí escucharla gemir y jadear de placer
7. Si para disfrutarlas
8. Sí es muy excitante ver
9. sí
10. Si es más natural
11. Si y que se los tragara
12. No así es mejork
13. Si por qué no
14. No importa de que raza sea
15. Cómo sea pero que cumpla su cometido
16. En general
17. Cómo la tenga la cosa es que cumpla su trabajo
18. Cómo sea su carácter no importa
19. Pueszdán

que ella disfrute de lo que le den
20. No importa la edad
21. No importa la edad
22. Da igual que cumplas
23. No el que ella quiera
24. Pues hay que buscarle
25. Si y muy accesible y sumisa
26. Si que la tratará como su perra
27. Las veces que ella quisiera
28. Si Con las que gusta mi esposa
29. Sí por qué no sería bienvenido el bebe
30. Si mí esposa es la que participaría
31. Si no hay ningún inconveniente
32. Da igual
33. Ya lo ha hecho
34. También ya ha tenido relaciones con sus ex
35. Ya lo hemos realizado
36. Si mí esposa lo ha hecho
37. Ya las ha tenido pero luego se le pasá

Hola, solo quería hacer una encuesta. He estado pensando en diferentes aspectos del fetiche y tengo curiosidad por saber qué disfrutan o no otras personas y pensé que algunos de ustedes también sentirían curiosidad. Entonces responda sí, no, neutral o inseguro a lo siguiente. (Sí significa que te gusta, no significa que no te gusta, neutral significa que eres indiferente o inseguro)

1. ¿Te gustaría un aspecto de humillación?
2. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera superior a ti? (matón, propietario, jefe, etc.)
3. ¿Te gustaría conocer personalmente al toro? (amigo, compañero de trabajo, etc.)
4. ¿Te gustaría unirte al sexo? (trío contigo y toro)
5. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja te contara su experiencia sexual?
6. ¿Le gustaría estar en una habitación cercana y escuchar a su pareja tener relaciones sexuales?
7. ¿Te gustaría recibir fotos o videos de tu pareja teniendo relaciones sexuales?
8. ¿Te gustaría ver a tu pareja tener relaciones sexuales en persona? (como espectador)
9. ¿Te gustaría "recuperar" a tu pareja después de tener relaciones sexuales con alguien?
10. ¿Le gustaría que su pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales sin protección? (suponiendo que no haya enfermedades de transmisión sexual)
11. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja recibiera un creampie?
12. Si respondiste sí a la pregunta 9, ¿te gustaría que tu pareja se duche primero antes de reclamarlo?
13. ¿Quieres saber cómo es la cara del toro?
14. ¿Prefieres que el toro sea de una raza determinada? (si es así, ¿qué raza(s))
15. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga un determinado nivel de forma física?
16. ¿Prefieres que el toro sea atractivo en general?
17. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga la polla grande?
18. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga cierta personalidad?
19. ¿Quieres que tu pareja se sienta atraída físicamente por el toro?
20. ¿Prefieres que el toro tenga más o menos la misma edad que tu pareja?
21. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera considerablemente mayor que tu pareja?
22. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera sexo con un toro poco atractivo?
23. ¿Te gustaría seleccionar el outfit que usa tu pareja en una cita?
24. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera "difícil de conseguir"?
25. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera guarra? (fácil)
26. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja fuera dominada por un toro?
27. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja viera el mismo toro varias veces? (relación a largo plazo con ellos)
28. ¿Le gustaría que su pareja saliera con varias parejas sexuales? (más de un toro)
29. ¿Te gustaría la idea de que tu pareja quede embarazada de otra persona?
30. ¿Te gustaría la idea de que tu pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales con alguien estando embarazada?
31. ¿Te gusta cuando el toro es un completo desconocido?
32. ¿Te gustaría que el toro fuera superior a tu compañero? (su jefe, etc.)
33. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja te engañara? (si no sabían de tu fetiche)
34. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera relaciones sexuales con uno de sus ex?
35. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja se fuera de vacaciones sin ti y tuviera sexo con otras personas?
36. ¿Alguna vez has tenido una experiencia con una pareja teniendo relaciones sexuales con otra persona?
37. ¿Te gustaría que tu pareja tuviera una conexión emocional con un toro además de física?


Mis respuestas:
1. No
2. Neutro
3. No
4. No
5. Si
6. Inseguro
7. Si
8. Sí
9. Si
10. Si
11. Si
12. No
13. No
14. Sí, w o b
15. Si
16. si
17. si
18. Neutro
19. si
20. si
21. No
22. No
23. Si
24. Neutro
25. si
26. si
27. Neutro
28. si
29. No
30. Inseguro
31. Si
32. Neutro
33. si
34. Neutro
35. si
36. si
37. No

 

[Joker_Harley]

1. Would you like a humiliation aspect?
NO
2. Would you like it if the bull is superior to you? (bully, landlord, boss, etc)
NO
3. Would you like it if you know the bull personally? (friend, co-worker, etc)
YES!
4. Would you like to join in the sex? (threesome with you and bull)
YES!
5. Would you like your partner to tell you about her sexual experience?
YES!
6. Would you like to be in a nearby room and hear your partner have sex?
YES!
7. Would you like to receive pictures or videos of your partner having sex?
YES!
8. Would you like to watch your partner have sex in person? (as a spectator)
YES!
9. Would you like to "reclaim" your partner after they have sex with someone?
YES!
10. Would you want your partner to have unprotected sex? (assuming no STDs)
NO
11. Would you want your partner to get creampied?
Unsure (maybe No)
12. If you answered yes to question 9, would you want your partner to shower first before reclaiming them?
NO
13. Do you wish to know what the bull's face looks like?
YES!
14. Do you prefer the bull be a certain race? (if so, what race(s))
neutral
15. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain fitness level?
YES!
16. Do you prefer the bull to be generally attractive?
YES!
17. Do you prefer the bull to have a large dick?
YES!
18. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain personality?
neutral
19. Do you want your partner to be physically attracted to the bull?
neutral(maybe yes)
20. Do you prefer the bull to be around the same age as your partner?
neutral
21. Would you like the bull be considerably older than your partner?
NO
22. Would you like it if your partner had sex with an unattractive bull?
neutral
23. Would you like selecting the outfit your partner wears on a date?
YES!
24. Would you like your partner to be "hard to get"?
NO
25. Would you like your partner to be slutty? (easy)
YES!
26. Would you like your partner to be dominated by a bull?
neutral (maybe yes)
27. Would you want your partner to see the same bull multiple times? (longer term relationship with them)
neutral
28. Would you want your partner to date multiple sexual partners? (more than one bull)
YES!
29. Would you like the idea of your partner being impregnated by someone else?
NO
30. Would you like the idea of your partner having sex with someone while pregnant?
neutral
31. Do you like it when the bull is a complete stranger?
YES!
32. Would you like it if the bull was superior to your partner? (her boss, etc)
neutral (maybe yes)
33. Would you like it if your partner cheated on you? (if they did not know about your fetish)
NO
34. Would you like it if your partner had sex with one of their ex's?
YES!
35. Would you like your partner to go on a vacation without you and have sex with others?
YES!
36. Have you ever had an experience with a partner having sex with someone else?
NO
37. Would you like it if your partner had an emotional connection with a bull in addition to a physical one?
neutral (maybe yes)

 

[Catholic_Wife]

Hi, just wanted to do a survey. I have been thinking about different aspects to the fetish and am curious what other people enjoy or not and figured some of you would be curious too. So answer yes, no, neutral, or unsure to the following. (Yes meaning you like it, no meaning you do not, neutral meaning you are indifferent, or unsure)

1. Would you like a humiliation aspect?
2. Would you like it if the bull is superior to you? (bully, landlord, boss, etc)
3. Would you like it if you know the bull personally? (friend, co-worker, etc)
4. Would you like to join in the sex? (threesome with you and bull)
5. Would you like your partner to tell you about her sexual experience?
6. Would you like to be in a nearby room and hear your partner have sex?
7. Would you like to receive pictures or videos of your partner having sex?
8. Would you like to watch your partner have sex in person? (as a spectator)
9. Would you like to "reclaim" your partner after they have sex with someone?
10. Would you want your partner to have unprotected sex? (assuming no STDs)
11. Would you want your partner to get creampied?
12. If you answered yes to question 9, would you want your partner to shower first before reclaiming them?
13. Do you wish to know what the bull's face looks like?
14. Do you prefer the bull be a certain race? (if so, what race(s))
15. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain fitness level?
16. Do you prefer the bull to be generally attractive?
17. Do you prefer the bull to have a large dick?
18. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain personality?
19. Do you want your partner to be physically attracted to the bull?
20. Do you prefer the bull to be around the same age as your partner?
21. Would you like the bull be considerably older than your partner?
22. Would you like it if your partner had sex with an unattractive bull?
23. Would you like selecting the outfit your partner wears on a date?
24. Would you like your partner to be "hard to get"?
25. Would you like your partner to be slutty? (easy)
26. Would you like your partner to be dominated by a bull?
27. Would you want your partner to see the same bull multiple times? (longer term relationship with them)
28. Would you want your partner to date multiple sexual partners? (more than one bull)
29. Would you like the idea of your partner being impregnated by someone else?
30. Would you like the idea of your partner having sex with someone while pregnant?
31. Do you like it when the bull is a complete stranger?
32. Would you like it if the bull was superior to your partner? (her boss, etc)
33. Would you like it if your partner cheated on you? (if they did not know about your fetish)
34. Would you like it if your partner had sex with one of their ex's?
35. Would you like your partner to go on a vacation without you and have sex with others?
36. Have you ever had an experience with a partner having sex with someone else?
37. Would you like it if your partner had an emotional connection with a bull in addition to a physical one?


My answers:
1. No
2. Neutral
3. No
4. No
5. Yes
6. Unsure
7. Yes
8. No
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. Yes
12. No
13. No
14. Yes, w or b
15. Yes
16. Yes
17. Yes
18. Neutral
19. Yes
20. Yes
21. No
22. No
23. Yes
24. Neutral
25. Yes
26. Yes
27. Neutral
28. Yes
29. No
30. Unsure
31. Yes
32. Neutral
33. Yes
34. Neutral
35. Yes
36. Yes
37. No

1. Would you like a humiliation aspect?
No.
2. Would you like it if the bull is superior to you? (bully, landlord, boss, etc)
Depends - if it fits our roleplay in a good way.
3. Would you like it if you know the bull personally? (friend, co-worker, etc)
No. Although we became friends during the dates.
4. Would you like to join in the sex? (threesome with you and bull)
Yes, we do.
5. Would you like your partner to tell you about her sexual experience?
Yes.
6. Would you like to be in a nearby room and hear your partner have sex?
Yes, we ocasionally stay in the same room.
7. Would you like to receive pictures or videos of your partner having sex?
Yes.
8. Would you like to watch your partner have sex in person? (as a spectator)
Yes, we do.
9. Would you like to "reclaim" your partner after they have sex with someone?
Yes, if reclaim is to use or dominate in some ways.
10. Would you want your partner to have unprotected sex? (assuming no STDs)
Yes.
11. Would you want your partner to get creampied?
Yes.
12. If you answered yes to question 9, would you want your partner to shower first before reclaiming them?
Depends.
13. Do you wish to know what the bull's face looks like?
Yes, we know about our male-friends.
14. Do you prefer the bull be a certain race? (if so, what race(s))
No. interracial is also good.
15. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain fitness level?
Not necessarily.
16. Do you prefer the bull to be generally attractive?
Depends, a horny ugly man might be a fetish, also.
17. Do you prefer the bull to have a large dick?
Not necessarily, but it entices her.
18. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain personality?
Yes, easy-going, fun and good at dirty talking.
19. Do you want your partner to be physically attracted to the bull?
Yes, but not in a specific way.
20. Do you prefer the bull to be around the same age as your partner?
We prefer older male friends (wife prefers older).
21. Would you like the bull be considerably older than your partner?
Yes.
22. Would you like it if your partner had sex with an unattractive bull?
See answer 16.
23. Would you like selecting the outfit your partner wears on a date?
Not necessarily.
24. Would you like your partner to be "hard to get"?
No, we don't like brat roleplaying normally.
25. Would you like your partner to be slutty? (easy)
Yes, we do.
26. Would you like your partner to be dominated by a bull?
Yes, we do.
27. Would you want your partner to see the same bull multiple times? (longer term relationship with them)
Depends. Usually it evolves to multiple times but respecting our agenda.
28. Would you want your partner to date multiple sexual partners? (more than one bull)
Yes.
29. Would you like the idea of your partner being impregnated by someone else?
No, that is porn fantasies.
30. Would you like the idea of your partner having sex with someone while pregnant?
We never really thought about it.
31. Do you like it when the bull is a complete stranger?
No.
32. Would you like it if the bull was superior to your partner? (her boss, etc)
It would be a too risky situation and therefore, it won't worth.
33. Would you like it if your partner cheated on you? (if they did not know about your fetish)
Depends. If it is in a roleplay context, yes.
34. Would you like it if your partner had sex with one of their ex's?
No. That would only could lead to problems.
35. Would you like your partner to go on a vacation without you and have sex with others?
Yes, we do.
36. Have you ever had an experience with a partner having sex with someone else?
Yes (didn't exactly understand the question).
37. Would you like it if your partner had an emotional connection with a bull in addition to a physical one?
Depends. Friendship is always desirable, but we don't want to let anyone inside our marital relationship.

 

[Lynnandhubby]

In answering, I need to make a distinction between bull and other men Lynn has sex with. For us a bull is something very specific, someone Lynn has an ongoing sub/dom relationship with. She only has one bull, though in the past, there have been times when she’s had a couple but we find it works better when she has just one who she can submit to totally.

1. Would you like a humiliation aspect? I don’t, I’m not into humiliation. Lynn gets off on being sexually, verbally and emotionally humiliated by her bull. I really wasn’t sure about this the first time I witnessed it but seeing the effect it had on her, I came to love this too.
2. Would you like it if the bull is superior to you? (bully, landlord, boss, etc) No - see above.
3. Would you like it if you know the bull personally? (friend, co-worker, etc). Her bulls have always become friends, some closer than others.
4. Would you like to join in the sex? (threesome with you and bull). I have done in the past and still do occasionally but my preference is to watch.
5. Would you like your partner to tell you about her sexual experience? I love hearing about Lynn’s sexual experiences, past and present.
6. Would you like to be in a nearby room and hear your partner have sex? Yes, have done and thoroughly enjoyed it.
7. Would you like to receive pictures or videos of your partner having sex? Absolutely not - don’t want anyone else taking photos, you have no idea where they will end up.
8. Would you like to watch your partner have sex in person? (as a spectator) Yes. As I’ve said, watching is my preference.
9. Would you like to "reclaim" your partner after they have sex with someone? Always
10. Would you want your partner to have unprotected sex? (assuming no STDs) Yes not just with her bull but with all the men she fucks.
11. Would you want your partner to get creampied? Of course.
12. If you answered yes to question 9, would you want your partner to shower first before reclaiming them? No
13. Do you wish to know what the bull's face looks like? Would be hard not to know what he looks like. If it’s a random man, I don’t care what he looks like.
14. Do you prefer the bull be a certain race? (if so, what race(s)) Lynn’s bull has to be black - her preference. Other men she fucks, we don’t mind what their background is.
15. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain fitness level? Yes he has to be fit and have stamina.
16. Do you prefer the bull to be generally attractive? Don’t mind as long as Lynn is happy.
17. Do you prefer the bull to have a large dick? Essential for her bull. Casual sex with others, size isn’t that much of an issue.
18. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain personality? Yes, we both have to get on well with him. It’s a very intense dynamic, there needs to be a high level of trust. For other men, I don’t really give a toss about his personality as long as Lynn is happy and he’s not a jerk towards me.
19. Do you want your partner to be physically attracted to the bull? She’s not going to take on a bull she’s not attracted to.
20. Do you prefer the bull to be around the same age as your partner? No - younger
21. Would you like the bull be considerably older than your partner? We are in our late 60s. It’s unlikely a considerable older bull would be able to give her what she needs.
22. Would you like it if your partner had sex with an unattractive bull? Again, wouldn’t bother me as long as she’s happy.
23. Would you like selecting the outfit your partner wears on a date? That’s the bull’s choice. If she’s out on the pull, I like being involved with her choice of outfit.
24. Would you like your partner to be "hard to get"? No
25. Would you like your partner to be slutty? (easy) The sluttier the better.
26. Would you like your partner to be dominated by a bull? Yes - that’s what she wants from her bull.
27. Would you want your partner to see the same bull multiple times? (longer term relationship with them) Yes, it’s an ongoing relationship that requires a lot of familiarity and trust.
28. Would you want your partner to date multiple sexual partners? (more than one bull). Only one bull but she fucks other men.
29. Would you like the idea of your partner being impregnated by someone else? No. Irrelevant at Lynn’s age anyway.
30. Would you like the idea of your partner having sex with someone while pregnant? Not relevant to us. I did love watching my first wife getting fucked while she was pregnant.
31. Do you like it when the bull is a complete stranger? As stated, for us a bull is never going to be a stranger. However, Lynn fucking complete strangers is one of the things that turns me on the most.
32. Would you like it if the bull was superior to your partner? (her boss, etc). I don’t mind and as we are retired, it doesn’t really apply. That sort of power dynamic would be a exciting to Lynn though.
33. Would you like it if your partner cheated on you? (if they did not know about your fetish) Yes
34. Would you like it if your partner had sex with one of their ex's? Yes. Wouldn’t be her first husband though as he was a useless fuck.
35. Would you like your partner to go on a vacation without you and have sex with others? Yes and she has.
36. Have you ever had an experience with a partner having sex with someone else? Yes obviously.
37. Would you like it if your partner had an emotional connection with a bull in addition to a physical one? An emotional connection isn’t the same thing as a romantic attachment. Some degree of emotional connection is necessary in a sub/dom relationship. When she’s fucking other men - no, it’s just about the sex.

James

 

[Liquids]

1. Would you like a humiliation aspect?
A bit
2. Would you like it if the bull is superior to you? (bully, landlord, boss, etc)
No
3. Would you like it if you know the bull personally? (friend, co-worker, etc)
No
4. Would you like to join in the sex? (threesome with you and bull)
Yes
5. Would you like your partner to tell you about her sexual experience?
Yes
6. Would you like to be in a nearby room and hear your partner have sex?
Yes, in chastity cage.
7. Would you like to receive pictures or videos of your partner having sex?
Yes
8. Would you like to watch your partner have sex in person? (as a spectator)
Yes
9. Would you like to "reclaim" your partner after they have sex with someone?
Yes
10. Would you want your partner to have unprotected sex? (assuming no STDs)
Yes
11. Would you want your partner to get creampied?
Hell, yes
12. If you answered yes to question 9, would you want your partner to shower first before reclaiming them?
No
14. Do you prefer the bull be a certain race? (if so, what race(s))
No
15. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain fitness level?
Yes
16. Do you prefer the bull to be generally attractive?
No
17. Do you prefer the bull to have a large dick?
Neutral
18. Do you prefer the bull to have a certain personality?
No
19. Do you want your partner to be physically attracted to the bull?
Yes
20. Do you prefer the bull to be around the same age as your partner?
Neutral
21. Would you like the bull be considerably older than your partner?
No
22. Would you like it if your partner had sex with an unattractive bull?
No
23. Would you like selecting the outfit your partner wears on a date?
Sure
24. Would you like your partner to be "hard to get"?
No
25. Would you like your partner to be slutty? (easy)
Yes
26. Would you like your partner to be dominated by a bull?
No
27. Would you want your partner to see the same bull multiple times? (longer term relationship with them)
Neutral
28. Would you want your partner to date multiple sexual partners? (more than one bull)
Neutral
29. Would you like the idea of your partner being impregnated by someone else?
Yes
30. Would you like the idea of your partner having sex with someone while pregnant?
No
31. Do you like it when the bull is a complete stranger?
No
32. Would you like it if the bull was superior to your partner? (her boss, etc)
No
33. Would you like it if your partner cheated on you? (if they did not know about your fetish)
She did it
34. Would you like it if your partner had sex with one of their ex's?
No
35. Would you like your partner to go on a vacation without you and have sex with others?
Neutral
36. Have you ever had an experience with a partner having sex with someone else?
Yes
37. Would you like it if your partner had an emotional connection with a bull in addition to a physical one?
No