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The dynamic between a cuckold and his wife's/girlfriend's lover is fascinating. I would like to hear about experiences of contact between the two. I place no restrictions on whether it's a bull, someone who ran a lengthy relationship with her or just someone who seduced her once. I have been cuckolded, but have never cuckolded anyone else, so I only have one view of how the two might interact: shame, proud, regret...

I myself have never had direct contact with any of the guys who made a cuckold of me. But in the interest of spurring discussion, I offer two "limited" contacts I had with guys who fucked my wife. One was a much older man who entertained my wife with his cock one evening at a professional conference. A couple (?) of years later we were invited to a diner party at his house. At that time I still had no idea that he had cucked me. There may have been something he said to me which I missed because I was unaware that he had enjoyed my wife. And of course he may have related to some others at the diner that he had had my wife.

A second occasion was I think more definite in the reaction of my wife's lover to me. A student, about four years younger than my wife and almost 10 years younger than me, while she was in grad school started an affair with her. Very quickly, by the end of the first week of classes. At the end of the first academic year she returned to our flat (in another city). Shortly thereafter she got a card from this guy with a photo of some column. His text said it was in his town, and she should take a look at it if she were ever there. Clearly this was a phallic symbol of the cock he had been entertaining her with for a year. But he must have known that I would also see that card. And presumably if my wife recognized the reference to his cock, I would too. So I take it he wanted to implant with me the idea that his intention was to continue to screw my wife the following academic year. Clearly he liked the idea of driving the cuck's humiliation home. My wife at those days:
 

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Hi,
I have always been cuckold hubby from earl on in our marriage it kicked off with wife swapping with my cousin as much as I enjoyed and fancied his wife i found the biggest turn on for me was her telling me how good he fucked her and the difference in cock size, he was much bigger than me.
From there we moved on to me encouraging her to flirt with make co-workers and the odd friend which developed into some fucking her when I was at work they didn't know I knew.
She had a few regular lovers who would come to our home and have her they got comfortable with me watching and clean her pussy after he filled her.
I became fascinated with her developing feelings for her regular lovers with my encouragement she started to tell me how good he made her feel in his arms and loved being with him. I encouraged her stay overnight at his place or him staying in our bed overnight. So for me the sex part of her and him as took a back step i get turned on more knowing they are true lovers with intermit feelings for each other. This is how it is with her current lover of 4 years, we all know we still have to keep it discreet for our family. The 3 of us go on holidays together 2 room them in one me in the other. We act as friends they act like a married couple. It works for me. And her
 
Shortly after my wife and I married, we'd already enjoyed a couple of mfm's with an old friend of hers, and I was well aware that several of her male coworkers had been privileged guests in her bed. I definitely married the right woman. We were at a company dinner for her company one night (it was an awards dinner, or the Christmas dinner, - can't remember which as the conversation that night overshadowed the reason for the dinner). When dinner was done and my wife was dancing with some guy, I met one of her coworkers at the bar and we got into a conversation. We'd all had a few drinks, and he and I began talking about my wife and he came right out and told me he'd always dreamed of having her and finally made it to her bed - it was a highlight of his life, he told me. Soon enough, we were talking about what it was like having sex with her and he shared details about her body and how she orgasmed, - details that only someone who had fucked her many times would know. We agreed to make it happen again, and that night, as he danced with my wife, he told her I'd agreed. She was all smiles as they came back to our table and my penis was tingling - I felt the blood rushing there. You guys who have had the privilege of being married to a wife who plays know exactly what I mean.
 
I rarely have had contact with my wifes Lovers AND have them know I am aware of their relationship. We tried this early on, she did not like me being there and asking silly questions, etc (dumb on my part) and one time I actually fell asleep (he was a dud and I was pulling 20 hr days at the time). We stopped for a while, and then destiny stepped in and a guy at work started coming on to her.......she found this EXTREMELY exciting as it was something that had never happened to her before....so a LOT of fun sexy times happened before she cued me in on what was heppening. I told her to see where it goes, and it was her first "clandestine" (meaning her Lover was not aware I knew, he assumed she wanted what she got from him and I was unaware) affair and that has been how things have gone for us since.........
Most of them have been co-workers, so I have SOME contact with them at company events she insists I attend but they are totally unaware I know she was in the bathroom with him an hour ago, or spent the weekend in his hotel room on their last business trip, or in the case of her Boss/Lover that they had stopped ANY pretense of birth control and were actively trying to get her pregnant!! Only ONE time did she try telling a potential Lover that I was OK with it, and he RAN like a scared rabbit...........turned out he was gay and hiding it by hitting on any woman in the company to hide it, LOLLOL.
I actually prefer it this way for the most part........my enjoyment is sharing the occurrences with her afterwards, especially when the proof of their lovemaking is currently leaking form her, or has soiled the panties she is jerking me off with, etc. works for us.

CW
 
Hi,
I have always been cuckold hubby from earl on in our marriage it kicked off with wife swapping with my cousin as much as I enjoyed and fancied his wife i found the biggest turn on for me was her telling me how good he fucked her and the difference in cock size, he was much bigger than me.
From there we moved on to me encouraging her to flirt with make co-workers and the odd friend which developed into some fucking her when I was at work they didn't know I knew.
She had a few regular lovers who would come to our home and have her they got comfortable with me watching and clean her pussy after he filled her.
I became fascinated with her developing feelings for her regular lovers with my encouragement she started to tell me how good he made her feel in his arms and loved being with him. I encouraged her stay overnight at his place or him staying in our bed overnight. So for me the sex part of her and him as took a back step i get turned on more knowing they are true lovers with intermit feelings for each other. This is how it is with her current lover of 4 years, we all know we still have to keep it discreet for our family. The 3 of us go on holidays together 2 room them in one me in the other. We act as friends they act like a married couple. It works for me. And her
There is something about knowing it's not just fucking. My wife truly wanted a "relationship". I was able to confirm this with the last guy she had. She always liked talking with her men, but she wanted the whole package; dates, stay overs, and devotion. She really liked her last man, they talked and played. He invited her to come to his place in Houston for a long week end starting on a Thursday. The plan was, they would go to Collett's Thursday night, which was the night they let in single men. So when I say "devotion", I mean I am sure she understood that She would be fucking strangers in the club at his desire. Being shared by her lover. She often called herself a whore and a slut what fucking other men, and I am sure she wanted to take that up a notch, but didn't want me to know it, and he was just the guy to get her there. But he lied about his ongoing involvement with his Ex-wife and once that came out she quit him before the trip. So they had only fucked twice; one evening and again when she went back to his hotel the next morning for more. She really liked to blow him and eat his cum which was a favorite for him too.
 
Hi,
I have always been cuckold hubby from earl on in our marriage it kicked off with wife swapping with my cousin as much as I enjoyed and fancied his wife i found the biggest turn on for me was her telling me how good he fucked her and the difference in cock size, he was much bigger than me.
From there we moved on to me encouraging her to flirt with make co-workers and the odd friend which developed into some fucking her when I was at work they didn't know I knew.
She had a few regular lovers who would come to our home and have her they got comfortable with me watching and clean her pussy after he filled her.
I became fascinated with her developing feelings for her regular lovers with my encouragement she started to tell me how good he made her feel in his arms and loved being with him. I encouraged her stay overnight at his place or him staying in our bed overnight. So for me the sex part of her and him as took a back step i get turned on more knowing they are true lovers with intermit feelings for each other. This is how it is with her current lover of 4 years, we all know we still have to keep it discreet for our family. The 3 of us go on holidays together 2 room them in one me in the other. We act as friends they act like a married couple. It works for me. And her
You have found the "sweet spot," lovejoys. Enjoy it! What you, your wife, and her BF are experiencing is always what my wife and I strived for. It's not at all like the fantasy stuff we read about here. My wife loves all of the extra sex that can happen in an open and loving marriage, but if I dove deep into all the cuckold stuff and talked to her about BNNWO "breeding" stuff, etc. she'd show me the door. ....But.....Pay for a nice room for the three of you in a luxury hotel, and disappear if you sense that you are inhibiting the fun, and your dreams will come true. I love the way the three of you do stuff together. Watching the affection between your wife and her BF will keep you hard all the time as it sends all kinds of messages to your brain. which then transmits the messages to your penis. 🤣 🤣
 
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The dynamic between a cuckold and his wife's/girlfriend's lover is fascinating. I would like to hear about experiences of contact between the two. I place no restrictions on whether it's a bull, someone who ran a lengthy relationship with her or just someone who seduced her once. I have been cuckolded, but have never cuckolded anyone else, so I only have one view of how the two might interact: shame, proud, regret...

I myself have never had direct contact with any of the guys who made a cuckold of me. But in the interest of spurring discussion, I offer two "limited" contacts I had with guys who fucked my wife. One was a much older man who entertained my wife with his cock one evening at a professional conference. A couple (?) of years later we were invited to a diner party at his house. At that time I still had no idea that he had cucked me. There may have been something he said to me which I missed because I was unaware that he had enjoyed my wife. And of course he may have related to some others at the diner that he had had my wife.

A second occasion was I think more definite in the reaction of my wife's lover to me. A student, about four years younger than my wife and almost 10 years younger than me, while she was in grad school started an affair with her. Very quickly, by the end of the first week of classes. At the end of the first academic year she returned to our flat (in another city). Shortly thereafter she got a card from this guy with a photo of some column. His text said it was in his town, and she should take a look at it if she were ever there. Clearly this was a phallic symbol of the cock he had been entertaining her with for a year. But he must have known that I would also see that card. And presumably if my wife recognized the reference to his cock, I would too. So I take it he wanted to implant with me the idea that his intention was to continue to screw my wife the following academic year. Clearly he liked the idea of driving the cuck's humiliation home. My wife at those days:
Regn, thanks for your cool post! Based on what you wrote here, it seems to me that you are in more of a "hotwife" scenario with your wife and her lovers, with her working on building rewarding relationships with them. Those longer term relationships will make it easier for the two of you to sustain and build an incredibly hot sex life with rewards beyond belief for all three of you. If she's found the right guy. Your wife is one of the most attractive and sexy females I've seen in here and doesn't have to be pictured in the throes of intercourse to be hot. She simply has it. That said.....

The older man your wife was seeing brings one of the key advantages older guys offer a married couple: he knows how the game is played and can restrain himself when necessary and communicate with the husband (you!) in a way that will subtly arouse all three of you. When you encountered him, he had no way of knowing if you knew what was happening or not yet was able to easily chat with you. I'll bet his penis felt a slight tingle as the two of you talked. Personally, when talking to a man who is having regular sex with my wife and he knows that I know, it arouses me. I love this aspect of my wife's "hotwifing." She loves it too, says it makes her wet when she can see him talking to me. I know it's the truth, as she's always horny as hell when we get home. We don't even have to talk about sex, - it still arouses me to know that he's been in her, and she liked it!

One of my wife's most potent fantasies has always been to have sex with younger men with hard bodies. Any age less than about 22 will do for her. Yes, she'd like to be the first for a boy, but doesn't want to go to jail over it. Her first younger man after she and I married (she was 29 at the time) was a 22 year-old college-educated engineer in his first career position. He and my wife hit it off right away when we met for drinks and to see if the vibe was right for us, and she made out with him in the parking lot before we parted that day - letting her hands roam all over him. But when we met in the hotel room near our home, he was intimidated by my presence and couldn't get hard. He hadn't yet grown comfortable with the idea of mfm, where hubby is more passive.....so......my always creative wife suggested I go to a nearby store for refreshments as she winked at me. As soon as I left, she told her new BF it would be hot to take a shower with him, and he got hard in the shower. I just drove home and jacked off while I waited for her to call me to pick her up. And yes.....I enjoyed her in the room when I got to the hotel. She was superb, as always. My wife was coming into her fertile time when we met him at the hotel room, and that let to some very erotic discussions in the following days, as no BC was used. We learned a lot about each other.
 
Even before our marriage, my wife enjoyed to cuckold me but we didn’t know that term.

If I analyse every situation of this pre-marriage happenings now, I notice how these lovers (and my GF) liked to play with my then GF in my presence. But I think they weren’t bulls, they only wanted to “own” my GF for a moment. As far as I know, they never fucked her. I think they wanted to show me that my GF enjoyed their attention, that they could conquer her and that she cooperated easily with them. Sometimes very easily.

For convenience's sake, I will skip over a period of almost 40 years. Not that I have similar stories to tell about that time. There are plenty of those, but I just want to get to the heart of your question sooner.

Our real cuckold lifestyle only began when we visited a sex club for the first time. It was my wife who chose one, despite the fact that the website indicated that the evening was intended for experienced couples. It was an evening where single men were very welcome. Every man (read bull) could assume that a woman was there for her own pleasure. On average, there were three men per couple. In reality, that average was higher because women tended to want to have a drink first to relax.

Back to your questions
In that club, she was of course also “used” by men, but it was remarkable how differently she behaved when there was some kind of chemistry between them. Devoted French kissing was an expression of that.
After just a few visits, it became apparent that she and one man were seeing each other very often. A few visits later, my wife told me that they had fallen in love.
Previously, their sex had already been incredibly exciting to watch, but because they were now having unprotected sex, it only made it even more erotic and arousing.
At home, she became increasingly open, even about her deeper sexual feelings and her fantasies about him, in great detail. Even down to the smallest details.

My relationship with him had always been good, but in this new situation it seemed that we had a great deal of respect for each other. Despite the fact that he regarded my wife as his property. Or perhaps precisely because of that.
Shame?
He and my wife shamelessly showed me (and spectators) how much fun they were having together.
Was I proud of my wife?
I cannot express how proud I was. I adored her.
Regret?
Never, not for a second. On the contrary, I made it clear to both of them how much I enjoyed watching them. Sometimes I even lent a helping hand. And they let me know physically how much they appreciated it.

My wife also had a second regular lover. A black man. But she repeatedly assured me that she was not in love with him. The photos and videos paint a very different picture.
My wife adored his shameless behaviour (to put it mildly) and adopted it with complete abandon.
I will stop here, otherwise this detailed account would become far too long.

Just a photo of her black lover after all.
That photo and text reveal her true nature.21th 09-26_1764 msk ds kant cr 800.JPG
 
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Her lover Kev as been chatting with me about his lover my wife on how I like the way thinks are going with them we talked about fantasy i have about them. He showed me pics of them on his phone just normal pics when they were out drinking both smiling and looking great, they are more of a turn on for me over sex pics, to see them as a couple is so good. We know we have to keep it this way as either of us want to upset our family. He tells me things he knows I want to hear,like how she loves being with him and how good the sex is.
If she could have his baby there is no doubt I would encourage it but unfortunately she can't which may be a blessing. Until you experience watching intermit between a wife and lover just sitting close together holding hands and when he just walks up behind her when she is making coffee and fold his arms around her is mmmmmmmmm