Asking GF to watch porn went wrong!

Share the same experience … I agree that is mostly insecurity , and they are better at hiding their desire than us, as we are more vocal and straight to what we want… SEX !! I learnt to respect they need time , more than us before jumping into something outside their comfort zone, unlike guys who are more likely to try it especially if there is sex involved …
Yeah, the weird thing is, when we met, up until we had kids, she was somewhat sexually aggressive. If I came on to her, she'd always respond and get wet. We fucked on a crowded dance floor, another time we went to a bar with her friend / friend's fiance and halfway through the night, she got horny and took me outside to fuck in the car; I'd have to stop her sometimes from trying to get into my pants in the middle of a bar where it was too obvious. You get the idea... Now its like she's this bashful prude who gets flustered / laughs nervously if I talk dirty to her in public and seems shocked / acts like I'm being naughty if I grope her in an elevator. She's constantly worried about being seen and can never let her guard down. Not a fan of how things have changed...
 
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Dude... the struggle is real, I know how you feel. I've made a lot of progress with my wife but it has been very slow; its taken years. You have to introduce stuff, help make things feel more normal and comfortable, then back off and let things chill, give it time to percolate in her mind. Sometimes nothing happens for months, then suddenly there is a significant jump forward (usually during a night of drinking when she's horny and uninhibited).

The worst thing is dealing with all the insecurities. My wife also for a while was even upset about me watching porn to masturbate - I'm like "have I ever not wanted to have sex with you? I watch porn because you only want to have sex like 30% as much as I want it. Then she's worried no one else would find her attractive, which is literally insane since she gets hit on all the time - but no amount of evidence is enough to reassure her and, of course, nothing I say counts because I'm her husband so "I have to say she's hot".The hotter the wife, the more insecure they often seem to be somehow, especially as they get older.

Unlike you, I am very interested in fucking other women but, ironically, contrary to my wife's fears, sharing her is an outlet for sexual adventure that I feel will make it less likely that I cheat on her because, its not so much that I want other women, its that I just want some adventure. Most of all, I'd like to get her out of her rut and for her to feel desirable and sexual again.
You know it’s possible your wife isn’t pissed about the porn and masturbating.
And she probably wants to fuck more, but you might be missing some subtle signs women throw out to invite our partner to initiate.
 
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You know it’s possible your wife isn’t pissed about the porn and masturbating.
And she probably wants to fuck more, but you might be missing some subtle signs women throw out to invite our partner to initiate.
I mean, she isn't upset about the masturbating anymore, this was years ago - she mainly got over it when I pointed out that I have never not wanted to have sex, while she frequently is too tired, sore, or whatever.

The signs have definitely gotten a lot more subtle over the years but I think I usually pick up on it and I test the waters pretty regularly to see if she is receptive. 10 years ago if she wanted sex, my wife would start rubbing my cock through my pants. Now her go-to way to initiate sex is to turn her bum toward me in bed and invite me to cuddle her, which eventually leads to sex if she doesn't fall asleep first. This signaling is kind of unexciting and also just doesn't happen nearly as much as I'd like. It's hard marrying a party-girl slut and then having her turn into a reserved suburban housewife who obsessively worries and obviously doesn't feel as sexy or bold as she used to.

P.S. sorry OP, not trying to hijack your thread
 
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I mean, she isn't upset about the masturbating anymore, this was years ago - she mainly got over it when I pointed out that I have never not wanted to have sex, while she frequently is too tired, sore, or whatever.

The signs have definitely gotten a lot more subtle over the years but I think I usually pick up on it and I test the waters pretty regularly to see if she is receptive. 10 years ago if she wanted sex, my wife would start rubbing my cock through my pants. Now her go-to way to initiate sex is to turn her bum toward me in bed and invite me to cuddle her, which eventually leads to sex if she doesn't fall asleep first. This singling is kind of unexciting and also just doesn't happen nearly as much as I'd like. It's hard marrying a party-girl slut and then having her turn into a reserved suburban housewife who obsessively worries and obviously doesn't feel as sexy or bold as she used to.

P.S. sorry OP, not trying to hijack your thread
I’ve been guilty of the ass invite or the foot leg rub.

Just as my other half didn’t realize how unsexy - “you can suck me if you want “ sounds.

Also I could have told my husband I don’t get turned on by “vanilla” porn . I didn’t.
He assumed I hated porn.
I just like mine a little different.

But I also got to a point where I didn’t try to tell him what I wanted.

But he tried plenty of the suggestions here and only dug himself a hole with me he will probably never get out of.
Trying to manipulate and guilt me into talking about my past, buying me a Shane diesel dildo
( not for me ), trying to force the naming other toys and talking like they were other lovers( I’m not turned on by it)
And just in general not listening to me once I did start expressing what I did want vs what doesn’t excite me.

In fact he ended up sitting on the verge of Divorce.

Not every woman wants to be convinced or coerced or us missing something.
I am responsible too because I should have been clearer about my turn on’s and turn offs.
 
Me and my GF had drinks the other night and were feeling frisky.

I bit the bullet and took this opportunity to ask my GF to watch porn with me. She was confused as to why I wanted to watch it with her so I told her I think it would be hot to watch together!

She said fine whatever (straight away I am like crap this isn't a good start), so I opened pornhub and said to her to pick something to watch.

She said to me, "no I want to see what you pick!"

Obviously I have a hotwife fetish and enjoy interracial(that's why I'm here!) but I'm thinking I need to go in gently and can't put on straight up cuck shit straight away so I scrolled a little bit and found an amateur video of a black guy having sex with a white girl.

I followed advice and was focused more on her pleasure than actually watching the video, she was confused why I picked this video (I just said it was hot) but at this point it was going alright.

Eventually we had sex and then after it she got upset and totally took it all the wrong way and thought she wasn't enough for me anymore, that I was bored of her and I needed to watch porn during sex to be able to get off now! :eek: I said she is beautiful, obviously I don't need porn don't be silly I just thought it would be hot!

Basically it couldn't have went any worse and now I think I've killed the fantasy stone dead! I had this vision in my head of how it went and it crashed and burned and couldn't have went any worse if I tried!

The next morning she was a lot better and I reiterated that I definitely don't need it she is amazingly beautiful and we have amazing sex, that I was just trying something different for a change! Later in the day we started getting frisky again and I made a joke about putting porn on and she laughed out loud! :ROFLMAO: We continued and had amazing sex (without watching porn this time! :ROFLMAO:) then I told here see I don't need to watch it!

Now I'm wondering what I should do next! We have been together for years and me bringing this up to her was incredibly difficult, I wanted to share my fantasy and it went terribly on the night! We are completely fine now though!
Speaking from my own personal experience, when my wife and I first started dating she had some hang-ups about watching porn. So we tried Hentai to see if she’d like that better and WOW. She really enjoyed watching Hentai over seeing actual people. Which in turn really unlocked her kinky side since Hentai gets way more crazy than regular porn.
 
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I’ve been guilty of the ass invite or the foot leg rub.

Just as my other half didn’t realize how unsexy - “you can suck me if you want “ sounds.
Haha, I hear you and I know a lot of husbands are like that... I'm not the "want to suck my cock" dude though. I've always felt like I had some special skill in romancing women and its part of why my wife is with me. I will come up behind her and kiss up her neck, nibble on her ear, etc and she always enjoys it. Sometimes it will result in signals that she is receptive to more but other times I can tell she is not in the mood.

Also I could have told my husband I don’t get turned on by “vanilla” porn . I didn’t.
He assumed I hated porn.
I just like mine a little different.

But I also got to a point where I didn’t try to tell him what I wanted.

In the past, I gave her a folder of porn, with a whole range of options, including MFM, gangbangs, and more hardcore stuff, even things I'm not particularly into and then told her to go masturbate while I took the kids out. Later we had sex and she told me which ones she got off to, which were generally MFM / gangbang porn. She can only admit she likes that though if she is already very turned on / drunk. Despite the experiment being somewhat successful, she did not have any desire to go back to watch more on her own.

But he tried plenty of the suggestions here and only dug himself a hole with me he will probably never get out of.
Trying to manipulate and guilt me into talking about my past, buying me a Shane diesel dildo
( not for me ), trying to force the naming other toys and talking like they were other lovers( I’m not turned on by it)
And just in general not listening to me once I did start expressing what I did want vs what doesn’t excite me.

In fact he ended up sitting on the verge of Divorce.

I've never done the naming dildo stuff, which I find kind of weird and I think she would just find more comical than sexual. I've certainly never guilted her into anything. We did once get onto a conversation about what really happened during a break-up we had before we got married, where I always knew I hadn't gotten the full story and she finally admitted to doing a lot more than she had originally said... the result though was that she got very wet, we had hot sex and after we both came, she was still so horny she got me hard again so she could ride me to another orgasm. Haven't brought it up since though, since I realize it is something that was probably only a turn-on in the right mood and would get old quickly.

We have a great relationship but it's gotten a lot more lovey and less sexual over time. I guess that is the nature of things but, as you get older, there's a desire to live it up a bit before you're gray and things stop working lol... At least, that's how I've been feeling.

As you suggest, I think it is likely my wife is not missing anything and seems fairly content with how things are. I've asked her what she wants / what would make her feel more sexual but she doesn't seem to know and maybe there just isn't anything.

The problem is that I don't feel content. We have amazing, hot, dirty sex still on occasion but its only when all the right things align, maybe every 3 months, with more vanilla sex every 2-3 weeks. I think I'd be happy if it were double that. I find it especially frustrating that she doesn't seem to get turned on by me the way she used to but then I have to resist the advances of certain friends of hers that come onto me and even grope me at parties. Makes me very frustrated that other women seem to want me more than my wife.

I think a big issue is just kids and lack of opportunity at the times of day that she is more likely to be horny, as she gets tried early these days. Maybe next school year things will improve when my youngest goes to kindergarten and we're finally alone in the house for several hours during the day, for the first time in forever.

I think the difference with a lot of men on here is that I'm not really looking for my wife to become something she never was - I just wish she could be a bit more like her old self again.
 
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Slight update but I tried the 'leaving the computer on' strategy while I went for a shower!

I started up my PC so we could watch the new Marvel show on Disney+. My GF already knows I have a folder called XXX on the desktop. I opened the new show on Disney+, paused it and then went for a shower, leaving my GF in front of the PC for 10+ minutes.

I came back and it was still on the paused Disney show so I have no idea if she checked out the folder or not! :ROFLMAO::eek:

Halfway through the episode we were talking about how young Samuel L Jackson looks for his age and she said "black don't crack!" :ROFLMAO:

Baby steps! That comment made me think she clicked on it but also a small part of me thinks she didn't! :unsure:
 
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Never understood the BBC fetish. If that was the only way to get my fantasy fulfilled, then maybe. Otherwise, I'm totally not into her doing anything with a Black guy.
You dont understand because you never been exposed to racism. The stereotype of prior 1960 black and white sex for some reason still resonates among women as total TABOO. The fear o being labeled Blacked or impregnated with a black child is a Good Girl gone Bad Girl urge to strong to resist. Women just have a natural instinct to rebel against anything they are told they can not do.

For me, I love the contrast of black skin on white skin and I think a lot of women get off on that also. There is also the Villon aspect of being in the wrong place and raped by a group of black men (for some reason black men raping a woman is more acceptable than any other man raping her, go figure) or cultural belief that black men are disrespectful to their women and thus treat women rude and rough thus their defense mechanism for being fucked by a black man is they had no choice but to do what he told her.

So there is the major reasons for the BBC craze and fetish. The whole thing about big dick is just a false stereotype created in the past centuries (not sure if it was 17 or 18th) to scare other races (white, yellow, pink) and women into thinking that black dick would deform their women and make them infertile. The truth is all men are given what they are given without regard to race. I say that tongue in cheek because Statistical surveys do show a growth difference between races. However, the biggest fucking dick in the world goes to THE MEXICANS.... who have always been considered short dicks just above asians with tiny dicks (which living in asia for so many years, I can attest that asian husbands have tiny dicks).

"54-year-old Roberto Esquivel Cabrera, from Saltillo, Mexico, has a penis measuring a record-breaking 18.9 inches. His half-metre penis smashed the record previously believed to have belonged to American actor Jonah Falcon, whose penis was 9.5 inches flaccid, and 13.5 inches when erect. Jan 20, 2017" Which has since been disputed.. Men just cant accept being outdone or stop comparing dicks! SO WOMEN.. and GAY MEN.. Who wants to ride a verified 19 inch dick?
 
Never understood the BBC fetish. If that was the only way to get my fantasy fulfilled, then maybe. Otherwise, I'm totally not into her doing anything with a Black guy.

I am not into any race talk or anything I just think a black cock going into a white pussy is hot! :ROFLMAO: I'm a white dude so watching another white dude wouldn't be as fun! It's just something different I guess! :unsure:
 
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Me and my GF had drinks the other night and were feeling frisky.

I bit the bullet and took this opportunity to ask my GF to watch porn with me. She was confused as to why I wanted to watch it with her so I told her I think it would be hot to watch together!

She said fine whatever (straight away I am like crap this isn't a good start), so I opened pornhub and said to her to pick something to watch.

She said to me, "no I want to see what you pick!"

Obviously I have a hotwife fetish and enjoy interracial(that's why I'm here!) but I'm thinking I need to go in gently and can't put on straight up cuck shit straight away so I scrolled a little bit and found an amateur video of a black guy having sex with a white girl.

I followed advice and was focused more on her pleasure than actually watching the video, she was confused why I picked this video (I just said it was hot) but at this point it was going alright.

Eventually we had sex and then after it she got upset and totally took it all the wrong way and thought she wasn't enough for me anymore, that I was bored of her and I needed to watch porn during sex to be able to get off now! :eek: I said she is beautiful, obviously I don't need porn don't be silly I just thought it would be hot!

Basically it couldn't have went any worse and now I think I've killed the fantasy stone dead! I had this vision in my head of how it went and it crashed and burned and couldn't have went any worse if I tried!

The next morning she was a lot better and I reiterated that I definitely don't need it she is amazingly beautiful and we have amazing sex, that I was just trying something different for a change! Later in the day we started getting frisky again and I made a joke about putting porn on and she laughed out loud! :ROFLMAO: We continued and had amazing sex (without watching porn this time! :ROFLMAO:) then I told here see I don't need to watch it!

Now I'm wondering what I should do next! We have been together for years and me bringing this up to her was incredibly difficult, I wanted to share my fantasy and it went terribly on the night! We are completely fine now though!
Always mention how hot she is. Start to cross into real stuff. "Allow" her to wear sluttier clothes. If she asks why, you just answer that it turns you on see her gain confidence and see the power her body has to attract.
 
We are just back from a weeks holiday with each other. My GF was on her period the week we were away, we had no sex, but we still had an amazing time together!

We've been back a few days now and me being the sex addict I am tried my hardest not to initiate. My GF eventually gave in and told me she wanted to fuck, so we started touching each other while we were watching a crappy Netflix movie! :ROFLMAO:

Anyone who is interested should look at my last posts, but I took this opportunity to escalate my cuck fetish!

During our foreplay, while I was playing with her pussy, I started playing with her asshole at the same time.

She always tells me she hates me touching her ass, but every time she gets soaking wet! As long as I don't put my finger right in she absolutely loves it so I kept sliding my finger around her asshole.

She was soaking wet at this point, I had my left hand index finger sliding in and out of her pussy and my right hand middle finger putting pressure on her asshole without going right in.

I'm not a great dirty talker, but I whispered in here ear that she secretly loved having both of her holes pleasured at the same time!

She started bucking around like crazy and I told her that I wish I had two penises so I could pleasure both of her holes at the same time!

She was going insane at this point trying her best not to cum, I knew she was loving it, so I went all in and told her to imagine two cocks sliding into both of her holes at the same time.

She immediately came and told me to start fucking her while she was still in the zone! :ROFLMAO:

It has been a few weeks since I last posted but I think this has been the most significant progress since the beginning! I floated the idea of her having a cock in both holes at the same time and she came immediately so I know she is secretly turned on by the idea!
 
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Always mention how hot she is. Start to cross into real stuff. "Allow" her to wear sluttier clothes. If she asks why, you just answer that it turns you on see her gain confidence and see the power her body has to attract.
Honestly, she is absolutely stunning, a legit 10/10!

She used to be overweight in primary/early high school, so unfortunately she is still convinced she is overweight (she isn't).

Eventually she lost all her puppy fat and became one of the best looking girls in school, but unfortunately in her head, she still thinks of herself as the fat girl from the start of high school! I was in the same year as her at school and remember all of the guys fawning over her but she thinks I'm just trying to be nice when I tell her about this!

We've been together 10 years now but she is still scarred from her primary/high school days and there is nothing I can say to convince her!

We've been together since the 2010's, she used to wear tight dresses, tight skirts, but since we've got older she has lost her confidence! I love her so much and just want to build her confidence back up but I don't know how!
 
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We've been together since the 2010's, she used to wear tight dresses, tight skirts, but since we've got older she has lost her confidence! I love her so much and just want to build her confidence back up but I don't know how!

I've been dealing with similar issues. My wife was much more confident when she was younger but now, after having kids, feels insecure about her figure and getting older, despite being thinner and more attractive than pretty much all the other wives we know. What has helped a lot over the past couple years is buying her sexier clothing and her deciding to go to the gym regularly. Even though I don't think the gym has made any difference physically, it gives her confidence. Finally, she's gone out with friends a few times and found herself being hit on repeated by men, which really turns her on and boosts her confidence more than I ever could.

I think she expects herself to be a swimsuit model but I keep telling her, me and all the other guys I know have zero chance of dating a swimsuit model, so you should judge yourself by more realistic standards.

Unfortunately, as the husband, there isn't much you can say since they just think "you're my husband, of course you have to say I look good"...
 
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