Missed opportunity?
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Maybe. I could be wrong. Too much and she'll try harder to hide it from her. If she doesn't believe you suspect anything, she's more likely to push boundaries and risk. I think that is what happened before. Too many questions from you and the hovering made her nervous. If you do say something it will have to be calculated.
Ron will, if he hasn't already, regardless of if he knows vette knows. We already know that. Anyone who will be discreet, like Dan, will know. He's very brazen and has no respect for our guy. As soon as @vette19690 gives the signal, we ride at dawn 😆
I'm very curious, and maybe you've answered this, but how close of friends are you and Ron(or how close were you before this)? I ask because I want to know how open he would be to knowing that you know about the initial proposition of the affair and that'd you'd be cool with her playing with him under certain parameters. If you have a cordial conversation with him and get him on the same page, you may be able to approach it from the angle of inviting him over with the intent of him coming onto her after she's relaxed, her being surprised and a little resistant, only for Ron to have her look up or turn around and see you smiling with approval.
She may like your acceptance of and assertiveness over the situation. That you're allowing her to express herself outside the marriage, but only under the parameters you've set. That's part of the Stag/Vixen dynamic. Right now, you're headed down the cheating and/or cuck path and, considering where you posted this thread, that doesn't seem like where you want to be. I actually don't know what country you're in/from, but if you're American, you know our women generally like their husbands to be in control, even of a situation like this. She wants to feel naughty and have a sense of freedom, but also feel safe and led, especially when she's unsure. It's the paradox of the western woman.
A situation like the one above let's you have your fun and her be reminded that you're a man she respects. A man who loves her enough to let her play and who is also confident enough to know she's not going anywhere just because another has her body. I don't know if you read my post about how my wife and I crossed over to playing, but nothing was hotter to her than when I confronted the guy who was trying to lure her into an affair and put him in his place. She was wet as hell, I'm telling you!
Take control, communicate openly and trust me–you, her & Ron will have the most fun! If he doesn't want to keep playing because you're aware of the "affair", but she's now open to the lifestyle, you've just opened the dream scenario where you two now get to pick the guy(s) you play with and they know/agree to the rules from the start. She never has to cheat, feel guilty, etc. Because make no mistake, Ron is trying to cuckold someone in your friend group(didn't someone remark in your OP that yours wasn't the first wife he approached?) When a man not only wants to fuck your wife, but talks about sharing her with his friends without your knowledge or consent, he needs to be put in his place.
If she went expecting or prepared to have sex, I don't think she would have hesitated. She's a Virgo; a planner. I only recall a very few instances when she wet into a situation with anything but a planned outcome. She always seems to get her results.
Ron won't jeopardize his chance(s) with her. If he let's it out, he knows he's done. You'd be a hell of a wing man!!
I'm very curious, and maybe you've answered this, but how close of friends are you and Ron(or how close were you before this)? I ask because I want to know how open he would be to knowing that you know about the initial proposition of the affair and that'd you'd be cool with her playing with him under certain parameters.
We're friends, a little more tan acquaintances, but certainly not close. I don't know how open he'd be to knowing I knew about his original proposition. It would probably scare him, not because we're friends, but because he wouldn't know the potential consequences. I would think he'd happily sacrifice our 'friendship' to get in her panties. It would probably freak him out to know I'd condone him fucking her, at least until his shock was overcome by the thought of her pussy for him
If you have a cordial conversation with him and get him on the same page, you may be able to approach it from the angle of inviting him over with the intent of him coming onto her after she's relaxed, her being surprised and a little resistant, only for Ron to have her look up or turn around and see you smiling with approval.
To not scare him off, she first needs to understand that I'm Ok with her fucking him and I'm not sure about how she thinks about this yet.. She'd have to convince him that I'm Ok with it. I may, at some point, broach it to him, but I don't think he'd deal with it well, coming from me; at least not yet, although I've been thinking about different approaches like this. Like I've been thinking about dropping hints to him about how sexy she really is and how I think she dresses to get his attention. remember at breakfast that first time with him and Dan, he commented on how hot she was and I encouraged his thinking and talking about it.
She may like your acceptance of and assertiveness over the situation. That you're allowing her to express herself outside the marriage, but only under the parameters you've set. That's part of the Stag/Vixen dynamic. Right now, you're headed down the cheating and/or cuck path and, considering where you posted this thread, that doesn't seem like where you want to be.
I have not set any parameters around this at all. I believe she accepted my agreement or consent for what she thinks I know. This has been her (and his) initiative from the beginning. I'm only giving her subtle signals that I'm Ok with her flirting . He's probably not thinking about cuckolding me. her body and pussy is his one and only focus. It may be cheating in her mind now, but I think she's focused more on her fun and dealing with the fallout later. She's confident that whatever she may do, I love her and will accept and forgive whatever she does. She knows me that well.
I actually don't know what country you're in/from, but if you're American, you know our women generally like their husbands to be in control, even of a situation like this. She wants to feel naughty and have a sense of freedom, but also feel safe and led, especially when she's unsure. It's the paradox of the western woman.
I'm from the US, and my wife doesn't really feel like she wants me in control. Like most American women she likes me to feel like I'm in control if it suits her particular need for the moment. If it doesn't, she's got no problem cajoling her way into getting what she wants. She's told me that countless times.
A situation like the one above let's you have your fun and her be reminded that you're a man she respects. A man who loves her enough to let her play and who is also confident enough to know she's not going anywhere just because another has her body.
Exactly
I don't know if you read my post about how my wife and I crossed over to playing, but nothing was hotter to her than when I confronted the guy who was trying to lure her into an affair and put him in his place. She was wet as hell, I'm telling you!
I haven read it yet, but I'll look for it. There doesn't have to be a confrontation here, in fact that might be counterproductive in this dynamic. Again, this is her game (and to a lesser extent his) but she's deciding, maybe every day, what she wants next. She's planning on how to get it, including whether she wants me to know about it or not.
Take control, communicate openly and trust me–you, her & Ron will have the most fun! If he doesn't want to keep playing because you're aware of the "affair", but she's now open to the lifestyle, you've just opened the dream scenario where you two now get to pick the guy(s) you play with and they know/agree to the rules from the start.
This sceneario may play out if/when/ Ron proposes sharing her with Dan. She may or may not be ready for that type of fun and she may not even know if she is.
She never has to cheat, feel guilty, etc. Because make no mistake, Ron is trying to cuckold someone in your friend group(didn't someone remark in your OP that yours wasn't the first wife he approached?) When a man not only wants to fuck your wife, but talks about sharing her with his friends without your knowledge or consent, he needs to be put in his place.
The fact that she never has to feel that she's cheating or feel guilty is the underlying premise behind this whole thing. How do I get the message to her that if I consent, she's not cheating without making her feel guilty? I've been wrestling with this since almost the beginning. My initial reaction to her when she told me (us) that she had been propositioned was her first clue that could be more to this and she was free to explore.
If he needs to be put in his place, never doubt that she will do it without compassion or mercy.
I've tried to explain this as well as I can and it seems a little confusing even to me, but we're working through this to whatever the final outcome may be.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but I think this is moving to the conclusion the three (or four) of us are anticipating.
We're friends, a little more tan acquaintances, but certainly not close. I don't know how open he'd be to knowing I knew about his original proposition. It would probably scare him, not because we're friends, but because he wouldn't know the potential consequences. I would think he'd happily sacrifice our 'friendship' to get in her panties. It would probably freak him out to know I'd condone him fucking her, at least until his shock was overcome by the thought of her pussy for him
If you have a cordial conversation with him and get him on the same page, you may be able to approach it from the angle of inviting him over with the intent of him coming onto her after she's relaxed, her being surprised and a little resistant, only for Ron to have her look up or turn around and see you smiling with approval.
To not scare him off, she first needs to understand that I'm Ok with her fucking him and I'm not sure about how she thinks about this yet.. She'd have to convince him that I'm Ok with it. I may, at some point, broach it to him, but I don't think he'd deal with it well, coming from me; at least not yet, although I've been thinking about different approaches like this. Like I've been thinking about dropping hints to him about how sexy she really is and how I think she dresses to get his attention. remember at breakfast that first time with him and Dan, he commented on how hot she was and I encouraged his thinking and talking about it.
She may like your acceptance of and assertiveness over the situation. That you're allowing her to express herself outside the marriage, but only under the parameters you've set. That's part of the Stag/Vixen dynamic. Right now, you're headed down the cheating and/or cuck path and, considering where you posted this thread, that doesn't seem like where you want to be.
I have not set any parameters around this at all. I believe she accepted my agreement or consent for what she thinks I know. This has been her (and his) initiative from the beginning. I'm only giving her subtle signals that I'm Ok with her flirting . He's probably not thinking about cuckolding me. her body and pussy is his one and only focus. It may be cheating in her mind now, but I think she's focused more on her fun and dealing with the fallout later. She's confident that whatever she may do, I love her and will accept and forgive whatever she does. She knows me that well.
I actually don't know what country you're in/from, but if you're American, you know our women generally like their husbands to be in control, even of a situation like this. She wants to feel naughty and have a sense of freedom, but also feel safe and led, especially when she's unsure. It's the paradox of the western woman.
I'm from the US, and my wife doesn't really feel like she wants me in control. Like most American women she likes me to feel like I'm in control if it suits her particular need for the moment. If it doesn't, she's got no problem cajoling her way into getting what she wants. She's told me that countless times.
A situation like the one above let's you have your fun and her be reminded that you're a man she respects. A man who loves her enough to let her play and who is also confident enough to know she's not going anywhere just because another has her body.
Exactly
I don't know if you read my post about how my wife and I crossed over to playing, but nothing was hotter to her than when I confronted the guy who was trying to lure her into an affair and put him in his place. She was wet as hell, I'm telling you!
I haven read it yet, but I'll look for it. There doesn't have to be a confrontation here, in fact that might be counterproductive in this dynamic. Again, this is her game (and to a lesser extent his) but she's deciding, maybe every day, what she wants next. She's planning on how to get it, including whether she wants me to know about it or not.
Take control, communicate openly and trust me–you, her & Ron will have the most fun! If he doesn't want to keep playing because you're aware of the "affair", but she's now open to the lifestyle, you've just opened the dream scenario where you two now get to pick the guy(s) you play with and they know/agree to the rules from the start.
This sceneario may play out if/when/ Ron proposes sharing her with Dan. She may or may not be ready for that type of fun and she may not even know if she is.
She never has to cheat, feel guilty, etc. Because make no mistake, Ron is trying to cuckold someone in your friend group(didn't someone remark in your OP that yours wasn't the first wife he approached?) When a man not only wants to fuck your wife, but talks about sharing her with his friends without your knowledge or consent, he needs to be put in his place.
The fact that she never has to feel that she's cheating or feel guilty is the underlying premise behind this whole thing. How do I get the message to her that if I consent, she's not cheating without making her feel guilty? I've been wrestling with this since almost the beginning. My initial reaction to her when she told me (us) that she had been propositioned was her first clue that could be more to this and she was free to explore.
If he needs to be put in his place, never doubt that she will do it without compassion or mercy.
I've tried to explain this as well as I can and it seems a little confusing even to me, but we're working through this to whatever the final outcome may be.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but I think this is moving to the conclusion the three (or four) of us are anticipating.
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