My experience and plan trying to convince my hot, but vanilla wife

I've been working hard on a plan for a long time. I put it in motion in Jan but I need to circle back and kick it up a notch.

I told her I really wanted to do something exciting and fun just to get things interesting again. She admittedly has a hugely lacking sex drive, and mine is off the charts - add to the fact that she's smoking hot and I am extremely distracted and frustrated. I mean, I can't even watch her vacuum in her tight black lululemon yoga pants without wanting to bend her over.

Anyway, I told her I had a thought that was super hot. I pictured her coming out of the shower in a towel and telling me and my friend "time to get out!" and my friend says "Not until you show us what's under that towel". Completely out of character on a whim she opens the towel and wiggles her naked body for us and says "there, happy?!" while we stare in amazement.

She listened quietly to my idea and gently said "uhhh wut". Followed by "why do you want him to see me?". I tried to explain how I think it's hot picturing her with other guys and she's dumbfounded - "So you want me to fuck other guys?!!! I don't get it". I just simply said "well, yea! It's just sex. It'll be hot. It'll feel good. My feelings won't be hurt. We're still married - it's just hot sex - you only live once, right? Why not! Let's do it!" To lessen the blow i add "and it's just hot to think about. We don't have to do it - let's just talk about it and see what's hot. What about a guy from the gym? Someone you see everyday, maybe someone from work, any of my friends you find hot?". She was obviously very uncomfortable with this crazy convo out of nowhere. It ended with her saying "well i could see that towel one working. Baby steps, ok". HUUUGE win. I'll take that.

It's now 4 months later and i have not been able to even bring the topic up again without her changing the subject or just saying "can we not talk about this now?". So I need to reignite the convo. I was thinking of starting off by lowering the barrier of entry. I will tell her, "hey remember that hot stuff i was talking about months ago - i get it - it's a little crazy - how about i tell you something I think is hot and you try to incorporate it at your own pace - something way easier". I reeeeally like licking her. She's very vanilla so i have to beg usually. She just wants me to stick it in and be done with it. The idea of her ASKING for me to do it is so hot - only because she has NEVER requested anything before. Never. In 15 years. Then I can notch it up every few weeks.

Another crazy, but clever plan i have is to make a google sheet listing EVERY single hot thing I want to do with her. Hundreds of things, from completely easy (like the licking thing) to "a guy can dream, right". I will say here's a list - literally everything on there is the hottest shit I can imaging us doing. If something - ANYTHING - turns you on - just mark it! If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems.

Anyway, thats the culmination of my past few months of dedicated research and planning. Maybe it helps someone in a similar situation.

Also, if you have any tips. PLEEEEASE send them my way.
 

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I've been working hard on a plan for a long time. I put it in motion in Jan but I need to circle back and kick it up a notch.

I told her I really wanted to do something exciting and fun just to get things interesting again. She admittedly has a hugely lacking sex drive, and mine is off the charts - add to the fact that she's smoking hot and I am extremely distracted and frustrated. I mean, I can't even watch her vacuum in her tight black lululemon yoga pants without wanting to bend her over.

Anyway, I told her I had a thought that was super hot. I pictured her coming out of the shower in a towel and telling me and my friend "time to get out!" and my friend says "Not until you show us what's under that towel". Completely out of character on a whim she opens the towel and wiggles her naked body for us and says "there, happy?!" while we stare in amazement.

She listened quietly to my idea and gently said "uhhh wut". Followed by "why do you want him to see me?". I tried to explain how I think it's hot picturing her with other guys and she's dumbfounded - "So you want me to fuck other guys?!!! I don't get it". I just simply said "well, yea! It's just sex. It'll be hot. It'll feel good. My feelings won't be hurt. We're still married - it's just hot sex - you only live once, right? Why not! Let's do it!" To lessen the blow i add "and it's just hot to think about. We don't have to do it - let's just talk about it and see what's hot. What about a guy from the gym? Someone you see everyday, maybe someone from work, any of my friends you find hot?". She was obviously very uncomfortable with this crazy convo out of nowhere. It ended with her saying "well i could see that towel one working. Baby steps, ok". HUUUGE win. I'll take that.

It's now 4 months later and i have not been able to even bring the topic up again without her changing the subject or just saying "can we not talk about this now?". So I need to reignite the convo. I was thinking of starting off by lowering the barrier of entry. I will tell her, "hey remember that hot stuff i was talking about months ago - i get it - it's a little crazy - how about i tell you something I think is hot and you try to incorporate it at your own pace - something way easier". I reeeeally like licking her. She's very vanilla so i have to beg usually. She just wants me to stick it in and be done with it. The idea of her ASKING for me to do it is so hot - only because she has NEVER requested anything before. Never. In 15 years. Then I can notch it up every few weeks.

Another crazy, but clever plan i have is to make a google sheet listing EVERY single hot thing I want to do with her. Hundreds of things, from completely easy (like the licking thing) to "a guy can dream, right". I will say here's a list - literally everything on there is the hottest shit I can imaging us doing. If something - ANYTHING - turns you on - just mark it! If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems.

Anyway, thats the culmination of my past few months of dedicated research and planning. Maybe it helps someone in a similar situation.

Also, if you have any tips. PLEEEEASE send them my way.
So this is what worked with my wife
You need to make it about her, her needs her pleasure.
 
Female here, youve got work to do . But remember she may just not be comfortable with it. That's ok, it's not a fantasy for all.

You thought about putting on porn during sex? If she allows it, do a more soft sensual porn aimed more for the female viewer. Make sure the guy is attractive and bigger than you.Don't start talking right away about her fucking him lol. Gauge her interest while she watches etc. maybe make a sky comment like "dang, jealous of his size" and "I know this is porn but she's actually getting pleasured, easy done when the guy gets a third leg"
After doing the porn thing a few times,let her pick the porn if she wants. From there you can say things like "why did you pick him babe?"
After that progresses then maybe you can dirty talk whisper mentioning her being the girl fucking him etc.


Make sure you aren't doing porn for every fuck, make sure you make love to her as well without kinks.


Just some ideas that hubby did for me
 
So this is what worked with my wife
You need to make it about her, her needs her pleasure.
this is sage advice !
Female here, youve got work to do . But remember she may just not be comfortable with it. That's ok, it's not a fantasy for all.

You thought about putting on porn during sex? If she allows it, do a more soft sensual porn aimed more for the female viewer. Make sure the guy is attractive and bigger than you.Don't start talking right away about her fucking him lol. Gauge her interest while she watches etc. maybe make a sky comment like "dang, jealous of his size" and "I know this is porn but she's actually getting pleasured, easy done when the guy gets a third leg"
After doing the porn thing a few times,let her pick the porn if she wants. From there you can say things like "why did you pick him babe?"
After that progresses then maybe you can dirty talk whisper mentioning her being the girl fucking him etc.


Make sure you aren't doing porn for every fuck, make sure you make love to her as well without kinks.


Just some ideas that hubby did for me
JFC this is magical advice. Easy to try too! Thanks!
 
Female here, youve got work to do . But remember she may just not be comfortable with it. That's ok, it's not a fantasy for all.

You thought about putting on porn during sex? If she allows it, do a more soft sensual porn aimed more for the female viewer. Make sure the guy is attractive and bigger than you.Don't start talking right away about her fucking him lol. Gauge her interest while she watches etc. maybe make a sky comment like "dang, jealous of his size" and "I know this is porn but she's actually getting pleasured, easy done when the guy gets a third leg"
After doing the porn thing a few times,let her pick the porn if she wants. From there you can say things like "why did you pick him babe?"
After that progresses then maybe you can dirty talk whisper mentioning her being the girl fucking him etc.


Make sure you aren't doing porn for every fuck, make sure you make love to her as well without kinks.


Just some ideas that hubby did for me
Would be honoured if you added that to my post. Wonderful advise
 
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I've been working hard on a plan for a long time. I put it in motion in Jan but I need to circle back and kick it up a notch.

I told her I really wanted to do something exciting and fun just to get things interesting again. She admittedly has a hugely lacking sex drive, and mine is off the charts - add to the fact that she's smoking hot and I am extremely distracted and frustrated. I mean, I can't even watch her vacuum in her tight black lululemon yoga pants without wanting to bend her over.

Anyway, I told her I had a thought that was super hot. I pictured her coming out of the shower in a towel and telling me and my friend "time to get out!" and my friend says "Not until you show us what's under that towel". Completely out of character on a whim she opens the towel and wiggles her naked body for us and says "there, happy?!" while we stare in amazement.

She listened quietly to my idea and gently said "uhhh wut". Followed by "why do you want him to see me?". I tried to explain how I think it's hot picturing her with other guys and she's dumbfounded - "So you want me to fuck other guys?!!! I don't get it". I just simply said "well, yea! It's just sex. It'll be hot. It'll feel good. My feelings won't be hurt. We're still married - it's just hot sex - you only live once, right? Why not! Let's do it!" To lessen the blow i add "and it's just hot to think about. We don't have to do it - let's just talk about it and see what's hot. What about a guy from the gym? Someone you see everyday, maybe someone from work, any of my friends you find hot?". She was obviously very uncomfortable with this crazy convo out of nowhere. It ended with her saying "well i could see that towel one working. Baby steps, ok". HUUUGE win. I'll take that.

It's now 4 months later and i have not been able to even bring the topic up again without her changing the subject or just saying "can we not talk about this now?". So I need to reignite the convo. I was thinking of starting off by lowering the barrier of entry. I will tell her, "hey remember that hot stuff i was talking about months ago - i get it - it's a little crazy - how about i tell you something I think is hot and you try to incorporate it at your own pace - something way easier". I reeeeally like licking her. She's very vanilla so i have to beg usually. She just wants me to stick it in and be done with it. The idea of her ASKING for me to do it is so hot - only because she has NEVER requested anything before. Never. In 15 years. Then I can notch it up every few weeks.

Another crazy, but clever plan i have is to make a google sheet listing EVERY single hot thing I want to do with her. Hundreds of things, from completely easy (like the licking thing) to "a guy can dream, right". I will say here's a list - literally everything on there is the hottest shit I can imaging us doing. If something - ANYTHING - turns you on - just mark it! If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems.

Anyway, thats the culmination of my past few months of dedicated research and planning. Maybe it helps someone in a similar situation.

Also, if you have any tips. PLEEEEASE send them my way.
"If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems."

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do NOT use those words. That sounds very threatening and won't go well.
 
I've been working hard on a plan for a long time. I put it in motion in Jan but I need to circle back and kick it up a notch.

I told her I really wanted to do something exciting and fun just to get things interesting again. She admittedly has a hugely lacking sex drive, and mine is off the charts - add to the fact that she's smoking hot and I am extremely distracted and frustrated. I mean, I can't even watch her vacuum in her tight black lululemon yoga pants without wanting to bend her over.

Anyway, I told her I had a thought that was super hot. I pictured her coming out of the shower in a towel and telling me and my friend "time to get out!" and my friend says "Not until you show us what's under that towel". Completely out of character on a whim she opens the towel and wiggles her naked body for us and says "there, happy?!" while we stare in amazement.

She listened quietly to my idea and gently said "uhhh wut". Followed by "why do you want him to see me?". I tried to explain how I think it's hot picturing her with other guys and she's dumbfounded - "So you want me to fuck other guys?!!! I don't get it". I just simply said "well, yea! It's just sex. It'll be hot. It'll feel good. My feelings won't be hurt. We're still married - it's just hot sex - you only live once, right? Why not! Let's do it!" To lessen the blow i add "and it's just hot to think about. We don't have to do it - let's just talk about it and see what's hot. What about a guy from the gym? Someone you see everyday, maybe someone from work, any of my friends you find hot?". She was obviously very uncomfortable with this crazy convo out of nowhere. It ended with her saying "well i could see that towel one working. Baby steps, ok". HUUUGE win. I'll take that.

It's now 4 months later and i have not been able to even bring the topic up again without her changing the subject or just saying "can we not talk about this now?". So I need to reignite the convo. I was thinking of starting off by lowering the barrier of entry. I will tell her, "hey remember that hot stuff i was talking about months ago - i get it - it's a little crazy - how about i tell you something I think is hot and you try to incorporate it at your own pace - something way easier". I reeeeally like licking her. She's very vanilla so i have to beg usually. She just wants me to stick it in and be done with it. The idea of her ASKING for me to do it is so hot - only because she has NEVER requested anything before. Never. In 15 years. Then I can notch it up every few weeks.

Another crazy, but clever plan i have is to make a google sheet listing EVERY single hot thing I want to do with her. Hundreds of things, from completely easy (like the licking thing) to "a guy can dream, right". I will say here's a list - literally everything on there is the hottest shit I can imaging us doing. If something - ANYTHING - turns you on - just mark it! If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems.

Anyway, thats the culmination of my past few months of dedicated research and planning. Maybe it helps someone in a similar situation.

Also, if you have any tips. PLEEEEASE send them my way.
One of the ways i like to explain it (which now is termed compersion) is that you’re so into a person you can enjoy seeing them enjoy someone else and that you feel so secure its just sexy to see them be sexy and makes you want them even more.

Its an adoration of a person and wanting to see them move in different ways, under different influences.

And ultimately if they can accept that, then its even more exciting because they can share it with you.

Its the ultimate trading of power, let me give you freedom and then give me the gift of watching you use it
 
Female here, youve got work to do . But remember she may just not be comfortable with it. That's ok, it's not a fantasy for all.

You thought about putting on porn during sex? If she allows it, do a more soft sensual porn aimed more for the female viewer. Make sure the guy is attractive and bigger than you.Don't start talking right away about her fucking him lol. Gauge her interest while she watches etc. maybe make a sky comment like "dang, jealous of his size" and "I know this is porn but she's actually getting pleasured, easy done when the guy gets a third leg"
After doing the porn thing a few times,let her pick the porn if she wants. From there you can say things like "why did you pick him babe?"
After that progresses then maybe you can dirty talk whisper mentioning her being the girl fucking him etc.


Make sure you aren't doing porn for every fuck, make sure you make love to her as well without kinks.


Just some ideas that hubby did for me
Sounds like Good Advice, TY for posting.
 
Female here, youve got work to do . But remember she may just not be comfortable with it. That's ok, it's not a fantasy for all.

You thought about putting on porn during sex? If she allows it, do a more soft sensual porn aimed more for the female viewer. Make sure the guy is attractive and bigger than you.Don't start talking right away about her fucking him lol. Gauge her interest while she watches etc. maybe make a sky comment like "dang, jealous of his size" and "I know this is porn but she's actually getting pleasured, easy done when the guy gets a third leg"
After doing the porn thing a few times,let her pick the porn if she wants. From there you can say things like "why did you pick him babe?"
After that progresses then maybe you can dirty talk whisper mentioning her being the girl fucking him etc.


Make sure you aren't doing porn for every fuck, make sure you make love to her as well without kinks.


Just some ideas that hubby did for me
Milestone Achieved!!!

Thanks @Cuckbitch99 for a wonderful input! Last night I did exactly what you mentioned here and got the fun of watching 3some with my wife. For someone (my wife) who has not watched porn, she was comfortable in watching with me. She said may be threesome would be fun and exciting. I replied back yes and we should do it.

She blushed and was dripping hot. She asked me to eat her, right after watching. When I asked her to talk more about 3some, she said she will talk to me later. I'm sure that in coming months i will be able to play it around once a while like you suggested!!

Wow what a feeling I had.

Thanks to you!
 
I've been working hard on a plan for a long time. I put it in motion in Jan but I need to circle back and kick it up a notch.

I told her I really wanted to do something exciting and fun just to get things interesting again. She admittedly has a hugely lacking sex drive, and mine is off the charts - add to the fact that she's smoking hot and I am extremely distracted and frustrated. I mean, I can't even watch her vacuum in her tight black lululemon yoga pants without wanting to bend her over.

Anyway, I told her I had a thought that was super hot. I pictured her coming out of the shower in a towel and telling me and my friend "time to get out!" and my friend says "Not until you show us what's under that towel". Completely out of character on a whim she opens the towel and wiggles her naked body for us and says "there, happy?!" while we stare in amazement.

She listened quietly to my idea and gently said "uhhh wut". Followed by "why do you want him to see me?". I tried to explain how I think it's hot picturing her with other guys and she's dumbfounded - "So you want me to fuck other guys?!!! I don't get it". I just simply said "well, yea! It's just sex. It'll be hot. It'll feel good. My feelings won't be hurt. We're still married - it's just hot sex - you only live once, right? Why not! Let's do it!" To lessen the blow i add "and it's just hot to think about. We don't have to do it - let's just talk about it and see what's hot. What about a guy from the gym? Someone you see everyday, maybe someone from work, any of my friends you find hot?". She was obviously very uncomfortable with this crazy convo out of nowhere. It ended with her saying "well i could see that towel one working. Baby steps, ok". HUUUGE win. I'll take that.

It's now 4 months later and i have not been able to even bring the topic up again without her changing the subject or just saying "can we not talk about this now?". So I need to reignite the convo. I was thinking of starting off by lowering the barrier of entry. I will tell her, "hey remember that hot stuff i was talking about months ago - i get it - it's a little crazy - how about i tell you something I think is hot and you try to incorporate it at your own pace - something way easier". I reeeeally like licking her. She's very vanilla so i have to beg usually. She just wants me to stick it in and be done with it. The idea of her ASKING for me to do it is so hot - only because she has NEVER requested anything before. Never. In 15 years. Then I can notch it up every few weeks.

Another crazy, but clever plan i have is to make a google sheet listing EVERY single hot thing I want to do with her. Hundreds of things, from completely easy (like the licking thing) to "a guy can dream, right". I will say here's a list - literally everything on there is the hottest shit I can imaging us doing. If something - ANYTHING - turns you on - just mark it! If you're not willing to try a single thing on that sheet, then we have other problems.

Anyway, thats the culmination of my past few months of dedicated research and planning. Maybe it helps someone in a similar situation.

Also, if you have any tips. PLEEEEASE send them my way.
Start by reading all about how women get aroused.
There is a reason millions of books like 50 Shades were sold.
Many women think vanilla is how to protect her reputation and your image.
once you understand the arousal process. Once aroused ask her which of the 5 most common fantasies she has. (look them up on Youtube) Notice how I assumed she has them. Start here
 
Yep it's a long process but I enjoyed it from first mentioning mfm someone watching then me watching her suck another guy and at 1st it was I was crazy, i'm just wanting excuse to mess around to I'm a perv then she started thinking about it i would ask her who she wanted to fuck i Also took some titty shots and her in see through nighty crotchless i told her they were for me and they were but I would tell her I showed my friend who's name had cum up during play i even told her he took some for a couple days and she asked why would he i go what do u think he got turned on by them so he wanted to jack off to them she got turned on by the thought but didn't totally believe me so one morning early he called and woke us and when I hung up she asked what he wanted i told her to let me know he stopped and put your pics on my car and to get them before someone else does and I had them hid in my garage so I go out and act like I grabbed them came back in with them and she wanted to know what he said about the pics did he like them but don't tell him I asked she said and then when I would use dildo on her I would ly next to her and ask her how she liked marks cock does it feel good and she would get into it and up to that point i hadn't mentioned it to my friend so I figured it was time to so first I showed him her pics and he liked them so then I told him we had been talking about a 3some and asked If he'd be interested and he didn't believe me either he wanted to hear it from her