So Done With Single Guys

[RedVixen_StagNC]

We know that our way is not for everyone but it does work for us. Every couple needs to figure out what works best for them and meets their comfort level.

No judgement here. It's what makes your situation work. We get it.

 

[xylophonehomie]

As I read these posts and look back over our years in the hotwife lifestyle, I realize that we have never relied much on setting up meetings. We are unusual in the sense that we are VERY comfortable involving non-lifestyle guys we know in our everyday life in our fun. My wife actually prefers having sex with married guys we know. Happily married guys just want some pussy. They don't want to have an 'affair', they don't want any complications, they don't want anyone to find out, they just want some pussy. Those are our favorites.

My wife has been letting married friends of our fuck her for many years and we have never had any problems. A lot of wives we know would be surprised to find out that their husband has fucked my wife. The other ways we find guys to fuck Kate is our swing club that allows single men, Kate picking up guys when she is out alone, or Kate and I picking up guys when we are out together...no pre-planning, always spontaneous.

The closest we have come to pre-planning an initial encounter was a few years ago. My wife loves to have sex with black men. We don't have any black friends and only a few black acquaintances. There was a pay-website we liked called Dark Cavern. It was set up for white couples to find local black guys to fuck the wife. I would get on Dark Cavern and invite one of the black guys who were online at the time to come to our house and fuck Kate while I watched. We never had a no-show but I was inviting guys who were online at the time looking for a hot wife to fuck.. A lot of the local members of Dark Cavern to fuck my wife.

Our way is not for everyone but it has worked well for us for 20 years or so.

I wish I had friends like you. I'm just a happily married guy who wants some pussy.

 

[davelb76]

Stacey and I prefer married guys for all the reasons mentioned in this thread.

 

[Criticalkink]

Married guys all the way.

 

[FoothillTravelers]

Agreed. No drama.

 

[TOfans]

I will say that there's drama on both sides just different kinds of drama. It really depends on the person and the type of person.

 

[robandkate]

You definitely have to pick the right married guys. We have had a couple of married guys feel some remorse after being seduced by my wife.

When Kate decides that she wants some married guy we know, she flirts with him subtly to gauge his reaction to her flirting. If his reaction is positive, we find a way to get the guy to our house alone. We have a hot tub, which is awesome for seducing guys. With a little alcohol and the closeness of the hot tub, Kate works her magic.

A couple of guys, after the fact, have had feelings of remorse for cheating on their wives. They blamed the alcohol. We all just agreed that it would never happen again and everything has been fine with our relationship with them. I still like counting them among our friends who have fucked my wife.

 

[ShutterSpeed]

The mature understanding along with the fact you know you're all there for innocent fun of the moment makes things so much better and easier! If you ever come to town

 

[TOfans]

You definitely have to pick the right married guys. We have had a couple of married guys feel some remorse after being seduced by my wife.

When Kate decides that she wants some married guy we know, she flirts with him subtly to gauge his reaction to her flirting. If his reaction is positive, we find a way to get the guy to our house alone. We have a hot tub, which is awesome for seducing guys. With a little alcohol and the closeness of the hot tub, Kate works her magic.

A couple of guys, after the fact, have had feelings of remorse for cheating on their wives. They blamed the alcohol. We all just agreed that it would never happen again and everything has been fine with our relationship with them. I still like counting them among our friends who have fucked my wife.

Definitely. Some guys have open relationships with wives, and those wives will completely understand. While others do not and hide that info from them. Some guys share a lot of their personal life with their wives like business, house and family and if the wife finds out it can cause massive damage at the expense of a kinkiness. Families and people can be hurt if you don't pick the right people. Cheating always leads to massive unexpected pain and drama. Drama isn't solely exclusive to single men. And there are some great single men that have a good understanding of what the rules are and they just want to have fun. I won't ever turn away a single guy if he's interesting and peaks my interest but I will turn away a married guy that wants to sneak around and cheat on his wife. For all i know that married guy could be cheating on other women and putting my health at risk when we have sex.

 

[Suncoastcouple]

As already said above. Most guys flake out. We are on several swinger sites and our profile does include seeking single guys. We get the married ones fantasizing and talking trash, we pass on them. The single ones flake 90% of the time. And finally we get the pushy ones. We are very clear about his role in our play. We have met a few nice ones and then they get clingy with her, lol. It takes A LOT of work no doubt.

 

[RedVixen_StagNC]

As already said above. Most guys flake out. We are on several swinger sites and our profile does include seeking single guys. We get the married ones fantasizing and talking trash, we pass on them. The single ones flake 90% of the time. And finally we get the pushy ones. We are very clear about his role in our play. We have met a few nice ones and then they get clingy with her, lol. It takes A LOT of work no doubt.

In complete agreeance with you. Singles ones dont' care about your time. Married ones can't seem to make the time to get away. It is quite trying at times. Always seems like it has to be on the 3rd parties terms exclusively. Yes, the pushy ones are the best. When you clearly outline what you are looking for and they aren't it, they think they are going to change your minds. WE have met two great guys luckily for us but had to wade through a box full to find them.

 

[Ariess]

As already said above. Most guys flake out. We are on several swinger sites and our profile does include seeking single guys. We get the married ones fantasizing and talking trash, we pass on them. The single ones flake 90% of the time. And finally we get the pushy ones. We are very clear about his role in our play. We have met a few nice ones and then they get clingy with her, lol. It takes A LOT of work no doubt.

The variety of what you will get on sites is always disproportionately set to the fools. I mostly notice over aggressive individuals which usually never works out the otherside to that is that as a married bull I find that most couples do not really want to meet and would rather talk online. It is a two sided coin that we all encounter. The balance would be to find a married bull whose wife is knowledgeable of the lifestyle as it allows the time you require as well as promoting the limits you establish. It can be very time consuming searching but once you find the right fit it can be a great thing. Best of luck.

 

[SDCuck]

When we started swinging, that's what we did, too. We got hotel rooms for gangbangs, but had the same problems of no shows, or guys who were too drunk or too high to give her a good fucking. She always had her boss to fuck, and a couple of other guys from work, but we wanted more variety and excitement.

After we moved, we went to porn stores with a theater and gloryholes for lots of anonymous sex.Then, mostly we went to strip clubs to find guys for her to fuck. Then, we developed some some neighborhood fuck friends, some at work and repeats from strip clubs. Or, I'll meet a guy who I want to see fuck her, invite him to come over for drinks where she wears something revealing enough for him to make a move and she takes over! Depending on what happens, I get to watch her suck his dick, then fuck her after he leaves, or we both fuck her.

 

[Lovehavingfun]

Married bulls are fun

 

[deal201]

It's sad that all these awful single guys give the rest of us such a bad rep. I've heard it a lot in my time as a bull, and they are always hesitant to try another single guy. I literally can't do anything to assuage their assumptions that I'm like all the rest of the single guys. The more I promise that I'll actually be there and can actually do what I said, the more they think I'm lying. They also assume I'm lying automatically because I look much younger than my age. I honestly don't know what to do about it. And I don't honestly know I want to. If they can't trust me over something as simple as my age, then they're not going to trust me with anything. Some of those that have "taken a chance" on me later apologized for being so skeptical for the reasons above. So there's that at least. Not all of us single guys are that way, and I've been happy to show couples that. The guys that are really aren't in to the lifestyle, and are just looking for the thrill or to get just laid. Or maybe they get nervous thinking it's a trap. I don't know.

 

[robandkate]

As already said above. Most guys flake out. We are on several swinger sites and our profile does include seeking single guys. We get the married ones fantasizing and talking trash, we pass on them. The single ones flake 90% of the time. And finally we get the pushy ones. We are very clear about his role in our play. We have met a few nice ones and then they get clingy with her, lol. It takes A LOT of work no doubt.

Guys who only fantasize about having a hotwife have no idea how difficult and time consuming it can be to find guys to fuck our wives. It does take A LOT of work.

We have had good luck at swing clubs, which I understand are not for everyone. We only go to swing clubs that allow single guys, or at least guys claiming to be single. My wife has been fucked by a lot of single guys at swing clubs. She can first and dance with various guys and invite them to have a drink with us so we can chat for a while before Kate decides. It is almost like watching my wife get picked up in a bar except I go along to watch their fun.

A lot of our encounters have been with men we know in our everyday life who discreetly express their interest in Kate or who respond to her subtle flirting.

 

[robandkate]

In complete agreeance with you. Singles ones dont' care about your time. Married ones can't seem to make the time to get away. It is quite trying at times. Always seems like it has to be on the 3rd parties terms exclusively. Yes, the pushy ones are the best. When you clearly outline what you are looking for and they aren't it, they think they are going to change your minds. WE have met two great guys luckily for us but had to wade through a box full to find them.

We have had similar experiences. There are guys who think that just because your wife has sex with other men, she will have sex with any man. There are guys who think that if they can just talk to her for a while they can convince her that they actually ARE her type. I cannot tell you how many times I have watched a guy who had a decent shot at getting to fuck Kate has talked himself out of consideration. They don't know when to stop talking trying to impress a woman who primarily just wants them for sex.

Guys who get to participate with a hotwife/stag-vixen couple need to understand that they are present primarily to enhance the sex for the couple.

 

[jane don]

15 years ago, when the wife was married to someone else and I was her bull, we went to some amazing swinger parties. One thing that made the parties fun, especially for the wife, was the handful of attractive, well mannered, respectful single guys willing to help make her the center of attention.

There were also frequent gangbang parties, were ladies could again be the center of attention from attentive, attractive, well mannered gentleman. I was frequently invited to those parties to help entertain ladies.

I'm lucky that my wife still let's me be a bull for other married woman. But how things have changed in 15 years!

First off, guys have become so flakey! Especially single guys. For our last attempt at a gangbang party for a lady friend, we invited 8 guys, all of whom had eagerly expressed a desire to participate. Only 4 bothered to get back too us. Only three said they could make it. NONE showed up.

We have had a single guy cancel on us, saying they got in a car accident on the way to the meet, only to have him say "what accident" when we checked on him a few days later.

Guys now show up in tee shirts, shorts, and flip-flops, often un-showered, if they show up at all!

We had two, usually normal acting guys, think it was somehow cool to suddenly act as if they were gang members, throwing up signs and talking about "Dueces Your Out" for any husband who wouldn't share his wife with them, whether the wife wanted to play with them or not.

Countless guys have begged for an invite to the next party or MFM, but never responded to email or text invite. Then two months later they write us wanting to know if there are any parties soon.

Just this month we heard from a guy we hadn't heard from in probably 7 years. Even though the ladies found him hot, we had stopped inviting him to events because he flaked out about 75% of the time.

The wife talked me in to giving him another chance and we invited him to join us, to help entertain a very hot single lady friend. We asked for a recent "G" pic of him to share with our lady friend. The wife was very disappointed to see the guy had really let himself go and had probably put on 50-60 pounds.

The guy asked for some pics of our lady friend and we sent him some. Then things got really bazzar! Dispite having previously played with my wife a few times, and some of our lady friends, I was now accused of being a fake and phony that was only pretending to have a wife and lady friend.

My wife's theory is that today's social culture is so anti-male-sexuality that guys self repress. They idea of a taboo meeting turns them on, and they will jack off to the invite, but won't actually show up. Hmmm?

Regardless, we are done trying to hook up with single guys, at least for quit along time until the wife starts longing for the good old days. At which time I'm sure we will be disappointed yet again.

In the meantime, here is some advice for single guys from an older bull that still gets lots of pussy:

1) Don't be flakey! If you ask for an invite, respond back when you get one

2) Take some pride in your appearance. If a woman is taking the time to get all dressed up and sexed up for a meeting, have some respect and do the same. Showing up in shorts, tee shirt, and flip-flops is disrespectful!

3) Don't be a flake. If you ask for an invite to the next gangbang, and get an invite, don't write back that you don't do gangbangs, but will meet for some one on one fun.

4) Nothing says "I'm an inconsiderate asshole" like showing up dirty and smelly. Large amounts of cheap men's fragrance is not a substitute for a shower!

5) Don't expect hot women to throw themselves at you if it's been years since you have been able to look down and see your dick without bending forward. Reintroduce yourself to the gym.

6) Contrary to your favorite music video, most women do not like the "Thug Life". And if you are an accountant or sales rep, you just look stupid try to act like one.

7) When a couple gets a nice hotel room for the weekend, and invites you two join to help show the wife a good time, don't be a flake and not show up like you said you would, and not answer your phone when they call to see if you're showing up at all

8). Don't be lazy or cheap. Don't say that 20 miles is to far to drive, but if a couple will spring for a hotel room nearby, you will met them. Yes...we have had that happen....more than once. If you're offered free pussy drive the miles, or better yet, offer to entertain the couple or lady at a nice hotel near them.

9) Learn how to talk. Seriously, the best foreplay for a woman is flirting, but if you can't carry on a conversation, you can't flirt.

10) Say thank you. When you're done, don't just put your pants on, say bye, and leave. Worse yet, don't say your stepping out to make a phone call and just disappear. You will not be invited back!

11) Don't get so stoned before hand that you drive to the wrong hotel, then call the couple and ask them to get a room at the hotel you ended up at because your to stoned to drive ..... yes..... really happened!

12) Just don't be a flake!

On second thought, all you single guys ignore my advice. You make it easy for an older bull to still get lots of pussy.

My wife & I mostly had great luck with single guys--The thing was--She Demanded they ph her beforehand & she would decide on the ph IF she was going to let them come--If they did'nt ph within a set timeframe--I had to email them they lost out-- You can't make the effort--Too bad & I will remind you of what you missed-

 

[Suncoastcouple]

Guys who get to participate with a hotwife/stag-vixen couple need to understand that they are present primarily to enhance the sex for the couple.

BINGO!!!!

 

[RedVixen_StagNC]

BINGO!!!!

Exactly! A lot of this site is predicated on the people being in the cuckold lifestyle. We're not all into that. So a lot of times it's hard to chime in on certain conversations. But yes, the folks we meet with know that its about enhancing our marriage/relationship and we enjoy adding an extra person and they are treated like they belong and are part of the relationship though.