Wife Flipped Out Last Night

Ive come to a similar place. Its going to stay a fantasy for me no matter what(wife isnt likely to ever be interested). I am starting to think that it might be better this way. We have used toys and sleeves in the past. Im going to look into other ways of playing that can fill this need for me
 
Ive come to a similar place. Its going to stay a fantasy for me no matter what(wife isnt likely to ever be interested). I am starting to think that it might be better this way. We have used toys and sleeves in the past. Im going to look into other ways of playing that can fill this need for me
Do you feel like you definitely want it or do you have the occasional post nut clarity where you think, what am I thinking?
 
I am in no way sure i would want it to happen. I do know im interested enough that i would like to take steps toward it. The thought of it drives me crazy tho.

There are plenty of other things that could kind of fill that urge for me too. Its a very visual, voyeuristic type thing for me. Having her dress sexy, flirt with someone, play with toys, or maybe even try ... with someone would all kind of fall into a similar feel for me that would be very fun.
 
I am in no way sure i would want it to happen. I do know im interested enough that i would like to take steps toward it. The thought of it drives me crazy tho.

There are plenty of other things that could kind of fill that urge for me too. Its a very visual, voyeuristic type thing for me. Having her dress sexy, flirt with someone, play with toys, or maybe even try ... with someone would all kind of fall into a similar feel for me that would be very fun.
Completely understand and agree. It’s insanely sexy.

Would you prefer a threesome with a handpicked guy when you travel somewhere. A situation where she would not be able to contact him afterwards or have to worry about seeing this person again?
 
Last night, my wife and I were relaxin in bed, a little buzzed. We were talking about some deep stuff and some sexual stuff, then I asked if she wanted a massage. I asked her if she liked if I blew larger loads, and said I was just curious. She said can you control that. I said kind of with diet and then briefly explained edging. She said the smaller the load the better bc it just leaks out on the way to the bathroom. She said she didn’t have anything else that she thought about.

So here I am massaging her hot body rubbing her with oil and so bring up the mojo survey we did a few weeks prior. We did it but never discussed it even though I had brought it up once or twice. She said sure and I brought up how the results (which she had never bothered to look at) had said we both selected a threesome. She laughed and kind of blew it off. She said really? I said well it would have to be all about you and pleasuring you. She said do you have someone in mind. I said no. Then a minute later she said would you be okay with a guy rubbing me down with oil in our bed like your doing right now? (Mind you my bare cock is rubbing against her lips as I massage her). I said well there would be a lot of conversations before that but yes maybe.

No response and I kept rubbing her. Then she gets up and says she needs some air.

Long story short she said that I’m an asshole and she can’t believe I would be okay with her fucking someone else. She said this is fucked up and it’s from all the porn you watch. She said she wants nothing to do With me right now and she slept in the basement.

There was apparently some swingers in my family that came out from my grandparents and she brought up how I must have gotten some of those genes. She said I would probably want to have a FMF at some point to which I replied I have no desire or intention for that. I said I only want to see you and be with you. She said but you want to see another guy fuck me.

I explained to her, I said I have never had these feelings in previous relationships, I never wanted to share, swap or do anything but I never was in a long term relationship where the other people didn’t ever cum/orgasm. I explained how she puts me down in our fights calling me a pussy and saying to be a man. At that point she said ohhh is that why you want a real man to fuck me. She said who do you have in mind. I said no one and I honestly don’t. She said oh maybe I should fuck Mike next door. Then she said she fucked him on his steps…I calmly said did you…she didn’t answer and instead continued yelling at me calling me an asshole.

Why would she be so descriptive about fucking my neighbor (40 year old divorced good looking jock type guy who she said she dislikes bc he is so arrogant). She complained about me hanging out with him whenever we get together. Now I am starting to think maybe something did happen.

Not even sure what to say to my wife at this point.

She said how could I dare risk our relationship like that and I kept saying how I didn’t say I was ready to actually do that and if she said hey that’s something I am not into, no big deal. She said I didn’t select that on the survey which she obviously did and as noted in my previous post I caught her talking about it before.
is the fact that you both picked threesome on the test lost on her? have you asked her to explain her choice?
 
We had another follow up conversation last night. Still making up and we haven’t had sex all week. I could tell she was ready to resolve everything because she had our bedroom door locked which told me she is ready for makeup sex…I still felt weird about everything with the neighbor because that’s just not comfortable and even though I am willing to have a threesome or allow my wife to enjoy someone else, I don’t want it with someone I have to see all the time. I want the option to never see them again.

So I brought up the neighbor and what she said. She said I don’t care about the neighbor and he was just the person I could use as an example. (She seems to think body size and dick size are correlated which I don’t science agrees with but let me know if someone thinks differently .) I said look I’m sorry I ever brought this whole thing up and its not something serious. She said yes it is, you’ve told me previously this is something you fantasize about which made me embarrassed. I tried to say I don’t but she said, “you even told me you bust a really big load when you cum thinking about me with someone else.” I said okay I do masturbate to that sometimes…actually it’s probably 50-75%. I just love the thought of her orgasming.

My takeaway again is she is hearing me and thinking about it because it stuck with her. It’s not like so many other things she forgets. Then she told me, she doesn’t need anyone else because I am all she wants. She said what if she started fantasizing about someone else in bed, then started fantasizing about them when I am not around and then started acting on it.

I really wasn’t prepared for this conversation, because no matter how much you read and prep their is so much emotion and I don’t want to fuck up the marriage. I told her that’s why I didn’t want someone we knew or nearby. She said oh so we get some random person from a bar or something. She was upset when she said it and I told her I hadn’t thought that far ahead but ultimately I think we have to find someone online and meet them at bar outside of our area. We sat in silence for a while bc we were both emotionally drained. Then we made up, kissed and had some really hot sex. She was on the last day or two of her pms which usually means dry boring sex, but instead she was really hot. She should be getting her period today, but it was like she was ovulating…maybe from the convo or just makeup sex. I told her to take me in her mouth. She got me close to finishing and then stopped. I said do you want me to finish inside you and she said yes. Her pussy was perfect…warm, wet and open. 5-10 minutes later my dick was sliding into her and I could barely feel her. I love when she opens up like that and a few minutes later I came deep inside her. So hot….I could tell at one point she was close to cumming but it just always dies off.

I do wonder if someone bigger would give her a better stretch or fill her up when she is really hot like that and actually bring her to orgasm.
Agree with earlier comment to just hang back and be patient, at least for now. However like you I found her initial response to this and that she mentioned a specific person and a specific place seems odd. He may have been the first "example" that came to mind but it just did not sound right. I do not know what type of relationship you have with this neighbor so it is hard to say but you could have a chat with him and see what his responses are. Nothing direct just guy talk maybe mention your wives comment about the body size and cock size. Your just looking to see his reaction but again I don't know how friendly you are with your neighbor and what he might say after a few beers. As far as the bigger question I know my wife prefers girth over length and have heard the same from other women. But this is just a preference, I have heard others say length over girth and some say smaller so it depends on the woman and I wouldn't put to much stock in it. Hopefully thing work out for you two, best of luck.
 
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I agree with all the comments . Reading what your wife said, hard for me to believe , she is someone who is refusing flat …it seems she had a thing or two but doesn’t want you to know …she wants to do things on her own terms without giving you the slightest idea , especially if she asks you, if you have anyone on your mind ?!!

I am sorry to say this, but someone who says she dislikes a person because he is arrogant etc…trying to distance him from being the center of attention in her pursuit, so you wont blow her cover …and I think for her not wanting you to talk about you watching, thinking that you will drop the subject if she tried to shut it off with her reply

I might be wrong, but to me, that’s not being truthful, and what is bothersome, you both as a couple should know , if she is indeed going behind your back with this neighbour she claims she doesn’t like ,that’s not right…

And I think as one of the posters previously mentioned, that’s a response some women do to try to shield themselves from any blame , not wanting to share such experience with a spouse….selfish on their part…If I may say


i totally agree! And the fact that she doesn’t like you hanging out with him/talking to him. I would bet $ she has fucked him. Go over and ask the neighbor, hey my wife told me she fucked you. I just want to let you know I am ok with it. Would be curious to see his response
 
I suspect she mentioned neighbor specifically because he is NOT on her list, and she has told you this many times. She said a public place because that makes it even more wrong, maybe from earlier conversations? She may have been trying to add details to support her objections in the most negative way.
But to your most important issue, statistically most women don't have vaginal orgasms. Cliteral only orgasms are the norm by (IIRC) 80%. Get her a Hitachi Magic Wand. #1 best seller and great user reviews.
 
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Last night, my wife and I were relaxin in bed, a little buzzed. We were talking about some deep stuff and some sexual stuff, then I asked if she wanted a massage. I asked her if she liked if I blew larger loads, and said I was just curious. She said can you control that. I said kind of with diet and then briefly explained edging. She said the smaller the load the better bc it just leaks out on the way to the bathroom. She said she didn’t have anything else that she thought about.

So here I am massaging her hot body rubbing her with oil and so bring up the mojo survey we did a few weeks prior. We did it but never discussed it even though I had brought it up once or twice. She said sure and I brought up how the results (which she had never bothered to look at) had said we both selected a threesome. She laughed and kind of blew it off. She said really? I said well it would have to be all about you and pleasuring you. She said do you have someone in mind. I said no. Then a minute later she said would you be okay with a guy rubbing me down with oil in our bed like your doing right now? (Mind you my bare cock is rubbing against her lips as I massage her). I said well there would be a lot of conversations before that but yes maybe.

No response and I kept rubbing her. Then she gets up and says she needs some air.

Long story short she said that I’m an asshole and she can’t believe I would be okay with her fucking someone else. She said this is fucked up and it’s from all the porn you watch. She said she wants nothing to do With me right now and she slept in the basement.

There was apparently some swingers in my family that came out from my grandparents and she brought up how I must have gotten some of those genes. She said I would probably want to have a FMF at some point to which I replied I have no desire or intention for that. I said I only want to see you and be with you. She said but you want to see another guy fuck me.

I explained to her, I said I have never had these feelings in previous relationships, I never wanted to share, swap or do anything but I never was in a long term relationship where the other people didn’t ever cum/orgasm. I explained how she puts me down in our fights calling me a pussy and saying to be a man. At that point she said ohhh is that why you want a real man to fuck me. She said who do you have in mind. I said no one and I honestly don’t. She said oh maybe I should fuck Mike next door. Then she said she fucked him on his steps…I calmly said did you…she didn’t answer and instead continued yelling at me calling me an asshole.

Why would she be so descriptive about fucking my neighbor (40 year old divorced good looking jock type guy who she said she dislikes bc he is so arrogant). She complained about me hanging out with him whenever we get together. Now I am starting to think maybe something did happen.

Not even sure what to say to my wife at this point.

She said how could I dare risk our relationship like that and I kept saying how I didn’t say I was ready to actually do that and if she said hey that’s something I am not into, no big deal. She said I didn’t select that on the survey which she obviously did and as noted in my previous post I caught her talking about it before.
Damn that’s messed up. I’m sorry to hear that. Honestly you should probably figure out what made her go off the deep end like that. Definitely more than just the topic🙁
 
I suspect she mentioned neighbor specifically because he is NOT on her list, and she has told you this many times. She said a public place because that makes it even more wrong, maybe from earlier conversations? She may have been trying to add details to support her objections in the most negative way.
But to your most important issue, statistically most women don't have vaginal orgasms. Cliteral only orgasms are the norm by (IIRC) 80%. Get her a Hitachi Magic Wand. #1 best seller and great user reviews.
The Magic Wand is magic! I have used the original model that plugs into the electrical outlet on her for 12 years and its still works great! It can get hot on her pussy from the enormous friction of the vibrating head. Plenty of extra lube helps keep it cool.
 
Last night, my wife and I were relaxin in bed, a little buzzed. We were talking about some deep stuff and some sexual stuff, then I asked if she wanted a massage. I asked her if she liked if I blew larger loads, and said I was just curious. She said can you control that. I said kind of with diet and then briefly explained edging. She said the smaller the load the better bc it just leaks out on the way to the bathroom. She said she didn’t have anything else that she thought about.

So here I am massaging her hot body rubbing her with oil and so bring up the mojo survey we did a few weeks prior. We did it but never discussed it even though I had brought it up once or twice. She said sure and I brought up how the results (which she had never bothered to look at) had said we both selected a threesome. She laughed and kind of blew it off. She said really? I said well it would have to be all about you and pleasuring you. She said do you have someone in mind. I said no. Then a minute later she said would you be okay with a guy rubbing me down with oil in our bed like your doing right now? (Mind you my bare cock is rubbing against her lips as I massage her). I said well there would be a lot of conversations before that but yes maybe.

No response and I kept rubbing her. Then she gets up and says she needs some air.

Long story short she said that I’m an asshole and she can’t believe I would be okay with her fucking someone else. She said this is fucked up and it’s from all the porn you watch. She said she wants nothing to do With me right now and she slept in the basement.

There was apparently some swingers in my family that came out from my grandparents and she brought up how I must have gotten some of those genes. She said I would probably want to have a FMF at some point to which I replied I have no desire or intention for that. I said I only want to see you and be with you. She said but you want to see another guy fuck me.

I explained to her, I said I have never had these feelings in previous relationships, I never wanted to share, swap or do anything but I never was in a long term relationship where the other people didn’t ever cum/orgasm. I explained how she puts me down in our fights calling me a pussy and saying to be a man. At that point she said ohhh is that why you want a real man to fuck me. She said who do you have in mind. I said no one and I honestly don’t. She said oh maybe I should fuck Mike next door. Then she said she fucked him on his steps…I calmly said did you…she didn’t answer and instead continued yelling at me calling me an asshole.

Why would she be so descriptive about fucking my neighbor (40 year old divorced good looking jock type guy who she said she dislikes bc he is so arrogant). She complained about me hanging out with him whenever we get together. Now I am starting to think maybe something did happen.

Not even sure what to say to my wife at this point.

She said how could I dare risk our relationship like that and I kept saying how I didn’t say I was ready to actually do that and if she said hey that’s something I am not into, no big deal. She said I didn’t select that on the survey which she obviously did and as noted in my previous post I caught her talking about it before.
Don't take her making a big deal as a deal breaker, she just probably pulling your balls and just wanted to be obsolutly sure that you want this and is ok with it. Give a some time then tell her you didn't want to fight and is only interested in her enjoyment and happiness in the marriage.