Am I right ??

I've been away for a while on a short vacation. Any new developments?
Hi coastal kid - many thanks for your continued help on my situation and hope you had a great vacation . Had the voice recorder hidden in our bedroom - and nothing !! - still no sex / intimacy - I’ve posted above the last occurrence of any such sexual or otherwise interaction . Is it me am I losing my fucking mind or what ? . I know deep down something is going on with the other stuff . I’ll give her this I’m beginning to think - she does really know how not to get caught - maybe she messages when outside but again haven’t had a situation where she’s went off ‘ shopping or otherwise . So I’ll have to come up with something else - need to wait until she starts ‘ shopping trips ‘ again .
 
It’s the little things that speak volumes - other day she had to order a birthday card for one of her sons - she had to put her pin no in the phone - i barely glanced sideways trying to see the code - she imperceptibly moved the phone almost as though it was due to her other hand putting the nos in that moved it but shot me a sideways glance to see if I was looking and put the code in I thought as fast as she could without making it look like she was rushing it if that makes sense . I find myself going over and over in my mind everything that I think is a red flag . Stuff she seems to be able to explain innocently enough but I think most guys would smell a rat at - she’s not interested at all in sex - changed her pin no on phone and I pad - gone for hours - washed her panties seperate from other clothes after being gone for 5 hours . Made up a reply to a message but there was another displayed , then put phone with screen facing down . I think got a message late at night - couldn’t get to it in case she woke up , now trying to angle phone to hide changed pin no . Jumped when I touched her tit - on asking why she jumped - no reply or explanation . Maybe it’s not an affair maybe just a fuck now and then but she’s still going behind my back - I know my wife and she used to regularly play with her vibrator do she’s getting something somewhere - she said why have you hidden the vibrators ? . I said well why should you be able to get pleasure when I’m getting nothing - her reply was - don’t you think I could just send for another one ? - not yes you are right we need to be at least try and get a sex life back or something - anything - but as usual very selfish attitude to everything and me in particular . Sorry my messages are fucking novels but seems like nothing going on till you look into the cracks
 
Don't be bothered by the length of your posts. You're just putting it out there. You can't help feeling what's going on. The absolute worst part is your wife could have it all but she seems insistent on "pulling one over on you". I can also see why everything seems like a red flag, you're hyper sensitized to her behavior. What worries me is that when she does get caught, it will be when she doesn't care.

You actually hid the vibrators!?! That's funny! I'm surprised she confronted you about it. Good reply by the way!

When was the last time you had sex with her?

I get the feeling she knows she's going to get caught and she wants to see how far she can push it until she does get caught. Is she ever pleasant to be around? Are there times when you feel liked or loved by her? No matter how this turns out the whole "I can't be caught part" is the gauntlet being thrown down thing. She's playing a weird game and you're on your own here. Will you confront her if you find something undeniable?
 
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Don't be bothered by the length of your posts. You're just putting it out there. You can't help feeling what's going on. The absolute worst part is your wife could have it all but she seems insistent on "pulling one over on you". I can also see why everything seems like a red flag, you're hyper sensitized to her behavior. What worries me is that when she does get caught, it will be when she doesn't care.

You actually hid the vibrators!?! That's funny! I'm surprised she confronted you about it. Good reply by the way!

When was the last time you had sex with her?

I get the feeling she knows she's going to get caught and she wants to see how far she can push it until she does get caught. Is she ever pleasant to be around? Are there times when you feel liked or loved by her? No matter how this turns out the whole "I can't be caught part" is the gauntlet being thrown down thing. She's playing a weird game and you're on your own here. Will you confront her if you find something undeniable?
 
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Don't be bothered by the length of your posts. You're just putting it out there. You can't help feeling what's going on. The absolute worst part is your wife could have it all but she seems insistent on "pulling one over on you". I can also see why everything seems like a red flag, you're hyper sensitized to her behavior. What worries me is that when she does get caught, it will be when she doesn't care.

You actually hid the vibrators!?! That's funny! I'm surprised she confronted you about it. Good reply by the way!

When was the last time you had sex with her?

I get the feeling she knows she's going to get caught and she wants to see how far she can push it until she does get caught. Is she ever pleasant to be around? Are there times when you feel liked or loved by her? No matter how this turns out the whole "I can't be caught part" is the gauntlet being thrown down thing. She's playing a weird game and you're on your own here. Will you confront her if you find something undeniable?
Sorry for last post - no idea lol - firstly thank you for your kind words and compassion with my troubles. Yes I suppose I am sensitised but at same time still trying to be deaf / dumb/ blind husband . Yes I hid them all but just to stir things up I returned it to my bedside drawer then took it away again after a few days checking it’s position carefully and she hadn’t used it . Well even that shows her uncaring selfish narcissistic nature because yesterday we were texting - everything ok / then she decided to pull me up for hiding and moving the vibrator back - she wanted to know was that a test to see if she was using it ? . And furthermore it was nothing to do with me if she was using it or not and just to throw them out then !! . It was down to me that she tried a vibrator which has given her the best orgasms of her life but again no thanks there eh. We haven’t done anything and I mean anything in 2-3 months - before that same - tried to fuck her on holiday in Spain but she was sore - it had been that long - proper blowjob - over a year - never initiates / wants sex . Being truthful no I don’t feel loved - even liked by her - I’ve mentioned that I think she hates me - I try my best but nothing . Yes absolutely I’ll confront her and take great delight in exposing just what she’s been doing and with who etc etc . There will be no way back for her and as you say all she needed to do was open her fucking legs .
 
Ok so thought I’d share the texts from yesterday - background is I sent for her favourite bra type ( mesh ) and I don’t complain one bit lol . Anyway it came with a free thong which said - lick me - on my it - she laughed and I said I’ve sent for another which said - fill me up - on it — 6BA17FD5-C0EC-44D7-A2DF-C6F552BA8D5D.jpeg9DF5F6AB-D935-4EB0-B018-5B099D93D44B.jpeg
 

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Sorry if the orders wrong but hopefully you get the idea . So she’s away to the shops but has our granddaughter who is 10 with her . But just before she left her phone went and I looked at the screen -message from her daughters boyfriend and also a tik tok notification . She mentioned the text but not the tik tok and I took a pic of the screen - it’s not the clearest but defo looks like a fucking dude - maybe another woman but flat chested - why didn’t she mention that and she has a tone for text but none for tik tok - why would that be - this is the same ...... that’s driving me crazy - I’m locked out of the I pad as she changed the code so I can’t check if that pic matches any on her friends or whatever - also here. Is the lick me thing and another white one - she doesn’t EVER - wear thongs 9F38578A-6C87-4855-BF6B-746C50AC0406.png
 

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Is your wife off for summer break yet? I know you said she drives a school bus. The school year should be over now. I'm just wondering if she's home all day now. Any other updates? Anything come up from your recorders?
 
Is your wife off for summer break yet? I know you said she drives a school bus. The school year should be over now. I'm just wondering if she's home all day now. Any other updates? Anything come up from your recorders?
Hi coastal kid - yes she has been off for a week or so now and unfortunately nothing at all from the recorder - I had it under our bed but at my side hoping to catch a hushed chat or pings from text messaging back and forth but - nothing - so disappointed but the chase continues - still absolutely no intimacy or sex or anything - maybe it was just that particular recorder was ...... !! I’m looking into maybe a couple of tiny cameras that would link to my phone - one in the car and one in bedroom - I think she’s maybe extra cagey about speaking in the house - who knows eh but it’s either I lose my marbles or catch the bitch lol - hope you are well too 😀
 
I don’t know if I’m imagining things or not but my wife and haven’t been intimate for around 3 months now and I believe she has cheated before in another relationship - she has told me ‘ she knows all the ways not to be found out ‘. So for her to say that confirms it for me . Anyway she seems to be out shopping etc which is not unusual at Xmas time but she seems to be away for hours and hours - on the odd occasion I’ve called her mobile and she’s supposed to be at the mall - but when she answers it’s silent in the background - you know that dull echo you get - also she got a bit agitated last weekend when I dropped her off for her car and she left her mobile in mines - sort of concerned maybe she’d get a call or text and I’d see it . About 15 minutes ago I called her - again at the mall - she picked up but was very matter of fact on the phone - almost like there was someone else with her and she didn’t want them to know or hear she was in fact talking to her husband ! . You know when you know somethings just not right -. I text her and asked her was someone there but just said she was in a shop but again no background noise of other shoppers ? . Trouble is she knows full well that I’d like to share her but she is concerned about what if other people find out etc . So what do you guys and girls think - if I ask / confront her it will be be denied and I’ll be the bad guy again . I’m deaf / blind / dumb hubby again trying to get some concrete evidence about this - any ideas ?? - sorry it’s so long also
It sounds like even though you are a willing cuck, she wants a man on her own terms and you're being treated like a chump. My wife cheated on me so I know the feeling. You need to ask what kind of cuck you are. She turned you into the cuck she wanted, not what you asked for, are you really that type of cuck, can you learn to be ok with being cheated on for other men? That's what you're facing, so what's the answer? Are you in or out?
 
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It sounds like even though you are a willing cuck, she wants a man on her own terms and you're being treated like a chump. My wife cheated on me so I know the feeling. You need to ask what kind of cuck you are. She turned you into the cuck she wanted, not what you asked for, are you really that type of cuck, can you learn to be ok with being cheated on for other men? That's what you're facing, so what's the answer? Are you in or out?
Thanks for your input - well fantasies are all well and good but - no I’m not that kind of cuck and never wanted to be - my ex fiancé and my first wife cheated on me too so I know the feelings but this seems different - I want to be a participating cuck and at least share her pleasure through her messages / pictures or being present or at least aware of what’s going on . So I’m out for that kind of cheating - she can go out and come home full of spunk if she wants but not behind my back . It’s like she’s trying to deny me that by actively ( I think ) getting fucked behind my back and If I can prove it so she can’t squirm out of it then the tables are turned and she will have to decide if she’s in or out .
 
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It may be time to take a motorcycle trip for a few days. Let the voice recorders do their thing while you're gone. Maybe she'll let her guard down while you're away. Another thought that came to mind is a GPS tracker. They are cheaper ($15-$30 on Amazon) than voice recorders and relatively discreet. It may do you good to get away for a little and she might just take the opportunity to be more bold while you're away and even after you return. If you do take a trip, come back a day earlier than when you say you will return. Claim bad weather or whatever.

Just thinking and hoping for a break to come your way. I don't know why I'm fired up about catching your wife? No, that's not true! I never got past her boldness of declaring she can't be caught. That stuck with me!
 
It may be time to take a motorcycle trip for a few days. Let the voice recorders do their thing while you're gone. Maybe she'll let her guard down while you're away. Another thought that came to mind is a GPS tracker. They are cheaper ($15-$30 on Amazon) than voice recorders and relatively discreet. It may do you good to get away for a little and she might just take the opportunity to be more bold while you're away and even after you return. If you do take a trip, come back a day earlier than when you say you will return. Claim bad weather or whatever.

Just thinking and hoping for a break to come your way. I don't know why I'm fired up about catching your wife? No, that's not true! I never got past her boldness of declaring she can't be caught. That stuck with me!
Well the voice recorder had been there for a week when she was in the house and I was at work . I had thought of a tracker for the car too - I finish up today for a two week vacation so we will mostly be together unless she ‘ goes shopping if I’m working on my bike or something . Yes coastal kid I feel exactly the same / it’s her I can’t be caught attitude that drives me to catch her out - she can come home full of spunk anytime she wants but I want in on it - it’s the deceit !
 
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Still not a sniff of any intimacy let alone sex , we away to Spain in few days and have mentioned about how good her tits look in her bikinis etc - not a word in return so I’m not hopeful of any action and I’m certainly not mentioning packing one of her beloved vibrators lol .she had a shower and had a nightgown on and material firmly packed tight between her legs - I’ve more or less given up even trying , not so much expecting any sex from her , more resigned to the fact that it’s just not on offer to me - and I know my wife that she used to thrive on her vibrator use whether solo or with me . The vibrators are hidden so she must be getting fucked from someone else . I’m looking further into small cameras that I can check on my phone sort of like the doorbell cameras . I think she is carefull to what she says in the house so any interaction has to be taking place in her school bus first thing or when she is out in the car . She is off school so doesn’t have the bus and now I am off for 2 weeks so only chance she has to communicate or whatever will be if she goes away in the car for whatever reason as I’m sure she will think of some excuse . It’s so frustrating that I just can’t prove fuck all but one way or another combining no intimacy and or sex along with her selfish and narcissistic attitude towards me and also sex with me and in general it’s only a matter of time before I call her out but as I’ve said she is so slippery and ‘knows all the ways not to get caught cheating ‘ so I’d rather have good ammo in my locker with something . I’d have thought as she is aware I’m ok with sharing her that she would go for it but it’s almost like she would rather deny me any pleasure with her doing it than allow herself pleasure being fucked I think partly because maybe she would enjoy it too much and it was my idea that gave her that chance of pleasure if that makes sense - again sorry for the long ramble
 
It strikes me as odd how your thread has me fired up. Maybe I've read too many BTB (burn the bitch) stories on Literotica. You could easily make a great story there if you transcribed this thread into a "diary-like" story with a timeline.Something like, "Day one: I noticed something odd today. My wife hand washed her underwear." The way you characterize your wife is like something straight out of a story.

Please don't infer that to mean that I believe your story is made up! I choose to believe you! Also, please forgive me for making light of your situation. I know you're miserable with the spot you're in. I'm hoping you'll deliver her day of reckoning! Sharpen your senses! Nothing is insignificant anymore! Details will pull your puzzle together!