I hear you both. Believe me I was there with you. But believe me that I now see the light. Kissing brings it home for. For us, as long as one of them are with us, I may as well be the butler. She’s not mine until they leave.After all these years kissing can be problematic for me - a turn on but at the same time some jealousy. Odd isn't it that a cock in my mouth or pussy seems OK and less intimate than a hot kiss and embrace.
From fixing them breakfast and dinner to just sitting romantically watching tv.
I love seeing that interaction with them.
When we first started she was not even allowed get them a glass of water and now we are here. Even our daughters recognize how it is when bull(s) are here.