Surprising Discussion at The Cheesecake Factory.

[wormwood]

My wife and I participate in fantasy cuck talk, but she has always expressed a reluctance to go through with it. One of the hottest things she does for me is to dress sexy and go to the local Indian Casino by herself. Sometimes I get to help her prepare for her trips and pick outfits for her to wear, sometimes not.
I've discussed this aspect of our play a few times on this board and how it never fails to wind me up and we have great sex when she returns home. She's always denied that anything interesting has happened to her while at the casino.
Fast forward to last night. While we were out to dinner, she initiated a conversation about what she intended to do during next week as she has taken the week off from work.
One of the things she stated was that she was going to the Indian Casino. When I asked her when she was planning to go, she told me that she wanted to go in the evening as opposed to the daytime as there were more people there in the evening and more chances she would get hit on. When she discussed going on a Friday evening, I knew she wanted me to participate in the preparations as I would be home that night and could engage in the angst of waiting for her to come home.
This perked me up right away, but I tried to act casual. I asked her a few questions and then she volunteered that she had been hit on in the past, (something she had denied in the past) before the Covid thing, but that it was always, "Old black guys". The emphasis was on the "Old". Neither one of us is racist but the fantasy lover we've always discussed is a younger guy with the ability to go multiple rounds.
I told her that for dipping her toes in the water, an older, more experienced man might be just the ticket and she shouldn't rule anyone out just because of their age.
This resulted in some eyebrow raising and a look that said she hadn't thought of it that way. I asked her if she had ever been with a black guy before to which she replied "No". Again, more eyebrow raising. I told her it might be a different experience for her.
She then talked about her outfit for the trip and stated that her new, leather miniskirt was just the thing. She told me that I could pick out the top but warned me not to go too far as that would make her too self-conscious and make her feel inhibited. I realized at this point that she had been putting a lot of thought into this and that turned up the heat for me. To think that she had spent time considering so many details made me realize she actually does think about this without my prompting.
Then she told me in an off-hand way that her casino membership entitles her to four free stays a week at the casino hotel and that they used to be for weeknights but now included weekends as well. She did tell me that the caveat was she had to make a reservation so "spur of the moment" was off the table. I of course told her that she should make the reservation before Friday "just in case".
I think the thing that gets me the most about this whole exchange is that she seemed to be leading me down the path, gauging my reaction, and eliciting the responses she desired from me. It seemed manipulated and planned in a good way. A passive-aggressive way to steer the conversation.
I think this indicates a shift in her reluctance and a positive step forward to the possibility of me getting cucked. Thinking about this now has my cock throbbing in anticipation of Friday night and the possibility that she has tried to "manipulate" me into getting something that I've wanted is just amazing and so unlike her.
I'll try to update this after Friday night. I know that when I've gotten my expectations up in the past, realities have never lived up to the experience, so my thoughts are tempered by past experience. I don't want to disappoint myself, so I'll just try to live in each moment as it comes along and enjoy the ride.

 

[jwf114]

My wife and I participate in fantasy cuck talk, but she has always expressed a reluctance to go through with it. One of the hottest things she does for me is to dress sexy and go to the local Indian Casino by herself. Sometimes I get to help her prepare for her trips and pick outfits for her to wear, sometimes not.
I've discussed this aspect of our play a few times on this board and how it never fails to wind me up and we have great sex when she returns home. She's always denied that anything interesting has happened to her while at the casino.
Fast forward to last night. While we were out to dinner, she initiated a conversation about what she intended to do during next week as she has taken the week off from work.
One of the things she stated was that she was going to the Indian Casino. When I asked her when she was planning to go, she told me that she wanted to go in the evening as opposed to the daytime as there were more people there in the evening and more chances she would get hit on. When she discussed going on a Friday evening, I knew she wanted me to participate in the preparations as I would be home that night and could engage in the angst of waiting for her to come home.
This perked me up right away, but I tried to act casual. I asked her a few questions and then she volunteered that she had been hit on in the past, (something she had denied in the past) before the Covid thing, but that it was always, "Old black guys". The emphasis was on the "Old". Neither one of us is racist but the fantasy lover we've always discussed is a younger guy with the ability to go multiple rounds.
I told her that for dipping her toes in the water, an older, more experienced man might be just the ticket and she shouldn't rule anyone out just because of their age.
This resulted in some eyebrow raising and a look that said she hadn't thought of it that way. I asked her if she had ever been with a black guy before to which she replied "No". Again, more eyebrow raising. I told her it might be a different experience for her.
She then talked about her outfit for the trip and stated that her new, leather miniskirt was just the thing. She told me that I could pick out the top but warned me not to go too far as that would make her too self-conscious and make her feel inhibited. I realized at this point that she had been putting a lot of thought into this and that turned up the heat for me. To think that she had spent time considering so many details made me realize she actually does think about this without my prompting.
Then she told me in an off-hand way that her casino membership entitles her to four free stays a week at the casino hotel and that they used to be for weeknights but now included weekends as well. She did tell me that the caveat was she had to make a reservation so "spur of the moment" was off the table. I of course told her that she should make the reservation before Friday "just in case".
I think the thing that gets me the most about this whole exchange is that she seemed to be leading me down the path, gauging my reaction, and eliciting the responses she desired from me. It seemed manipulated and planned in a good way. A passive-aggressive way to steer the conversation.
I think this indicates a shift in her reluctance and a positive step forward to the possibility of me getting cucked. Thinking about this now has my cock throbbing in anticipation of Friday night and the possibility that she has tried to "manipulate" me into getting something that I've wanted is just amazing and so unlike her.
I'll try to update this after Friday night. I know that when I've gotten my expectations up in the past, realities have never lived up to the experience, so my thoughts are tempered by past experience. I don't want to disappoint myself, so I'll just try to live in each moment as it comes along and enjoy the ride.

Wow, thanks for sharing. I cant wait to hear how it goes for you guys! I love reading about people getting into the lifestyle.

 

[eddandkel]

Here it is, Friday night. Let's hope you will be spending it alone. 😊

 

[wormwood]

Here it is, Friday night. Let's hope you will be spending it alone. 😊

She hasn't left yet but I just finished rubbing lotion into her legs. She's getting dressed as I type this.

 

[usacalguy]

Keep up updated.

 

[wormwood]

Any pic of how she looks going out the door? Did she make the reservation to spend the night?

The more active I get here and on other sites, the leerier she gets of letting me take pics. No matter how much she trusts me she still thinks I'll share them. I don't. I didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable, so I didn't press the issue.
She calls it her leather mini but it's more of a pleather mini and it hugs her curves very well. You can see the outline of her G-string. A leopard print silk top with a sheer white blouse over it. A shelf bra underneath that gives her a little bit of a jiggle as she walks.
She did reserve a room but by the time she left it was past check-in time so I'm sure she lost it. ( i think probably on purpose)
This isn't her first time to the casino alone or her first time dressed to the nines, but her demeanor was more confident. Meanwhile I sit here and try to resist coming back to this site as I know the questions will be numerous and I'm so amped up right now. One minute horny and another minute scared and on and on.

 

[Funnguy1]

Please keep us updated

 

[Derekthecuck]

The more active I get here and on other sites, the leerier she gets of letting me take pics. No matter how much she trusts me she still thinks I'll share them. I don't. I didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable, so I didn't press the issue.
She calls it her leather mini but it's more of a pleather mini and it hugs her curves very well. You can see the outline of her G-string. A leopard print silk top with a sheer white blouse over it. A shelf bra underneath that gives her a little bit of a jiggle as she walks.
She did reserve a room but by the time she left it was past check-in time so I'm sure she lost it. ( i think probably on purpose)
This isn't her first time to the casino alone or her first time dressed to the nines, but her demeanor was more confident. Meanwhile I sit here and try to resist coming back to this site as I know the questions will be numerous and I'm so amped up right now. One minute horny and another minute scared and on and on.

This is so exciting!

 

[wormwood]

So, reality rears its ugly head once again. She was not happy when she came home, and it took a lot of tender husband time to get to the main reason for her mood. It seems she was approached but it was by a guy that was sloppy drunk, and he was very rude and handsy. Luckily, she was saved from being further accosted by his friends who came and extracted him from the situation with apologies and a mad rush out of the cocktail lounge. It did cause a scene and she was approached by the bartender who asked if she was alright and then by security who asked the same questions.
As bad as we both felt about this turn of events, it did result in a few concessions from both of us. She did agree that she likes to go there and the idea that she's free to indulge herself. We came to the agreement that she won't be wearing such revealing clothing. It seems that when she dresses like that, she feels too self-conscious and that inhibits her from dealing with other people. So, the plan is that she'll go there again but she will wear her regular street clothes in the interest of comfort. Even though this trip was a negative, I view our discussion about it as a positive step towards us talking about our shared journey.
The most positive result was that we talked about ways for her to interact with other guys in a safe and more controlled manner. One of the ways that I suggested was that we put up a profile for her on a dating site and then she can chat with guys who we both can screen. She didn't agree right away but she didn't shoot it down and she didn't say no.
Sorry about the delay in getting back here to report on this situation. I spent most of my time this weekend making sure I paid a lot of attention to her.

 

[Colton]

My wife and I participate in fantasy cuck talk, but she has always expressed a reluctance to go through with it. One of the hottest things she does for me is to dress sexy and go to the local Indian Casino by herself. Sometimes I get to help her prepare for her trips and pick outfits for her to wear, sometimes not.
I've discussed this aspect of our play a few times on this board and how it never fails to wind me up and we have great sex when she returns home. She's always denied that anything interesting has happened to her while at the casino.
Fast forward to last night. While we were out to dinner, she initiated a conversation about what she intended to do during next week as she has taken the week off from work.
One of the things she stated was that she was going to the Indian Casino. When I asked her when she was planning to go, she told me that she wanted to go in the evening as opposed to the daytime as there were more people there in the evening and more chances she would get hit on. When she discussed going on a Friday evening, I knew she wanted me to participate in the preparations as I would be home that night and could engage in the angst of waiting for her to come home.
This perked me up right away, but I tried to act casual. I asked her a few questions and then she volunteered that she had been hit on in the past, (something she had denied in the past) before the Covid thing, but that it was always, "Old black guys". The emphasis was on the "Old". Neither one of us is racist but the fantasy lover we've always discussed is a younger guy with the ability to go multiple rounds.
I told her that for dipping her toes in the water, an older, more experienced man might be just the ticket and she shouldn't rule anyone out just because of their age.
This resulted in some eyebrow raising and a look that said she hadn't thought of it that way. I asked her if she had ever been with a black guy before to which she replied "No". Again, more eyebrow raising. I told her it might be a different experience for her.
She then talked about her outfit for the trip and stated that her new, leather miniskirt was just the thing. She told me that I could pick out the top but warned me not to go too far as that would make her too self-conscious and make her feel inhibited. I realized at this point that she had been putting a lot of thought into this and that turned up the heat for me. To think that she had spent time considering so many details made me realize she actually does think about this without my prompting.
Then she told me in an off-hand way that her casino membership entitles her to four free stays a week at the casino hotel and that they used to be for weeknights but now included weekends as well. She did tell me that the caveat was she had to make a reservation so "spur of the moment" was off the table. I of course told her that she should make the reservation before Friday "just in case".
I think the thing that gets me the most about this whole exchange is that she seemed to be leading me down the path, gauging my reaction, and eliciting the responses she desired from me. It seemed manipulated and planned in a good way. A passive-aggressive way to steer the conversation.
I think this indicates a shift in her reluctance and a positive step forward to the possibility of me getting cucked. Thinking about this now has my cock throbbing in anticipation of Friday night and the possibility that she has tried to "manipulate" me into getting something that I've wanted is just amazing and so unlike her.
I'll try to update this after Friday night. I know that when I've gotten my expectations up in the past, realities have never lived up to the experience, so my thoughts are tempered by past experience. I don't want to disappoint myself, so I'll just try to live in each moment as it comes along and enjoy the ride.

Best of luck to you. You better get ready to be swallowing a lot of cum on a regular basis because once your wife gets a taste of it there will be no going back to the way it was.

 

[eddandkel]

This may not have turned out as planned but it's still a positive step. Your wife has the confidence required to be a hotwife and she is attending men so is clearly hot enough.

 

[Sgt Ray]

Absofuckinlutely a positive step, especially since she initiated the idea & planned it. And a leather mini skirt....with either string bikini panties, or none at all? She's ready to GO, man.
Try to be casual about it. Don't want to have her change her mind. But gently ask if she can text you once in a while, so she can tease you a bit & let u know how she's doing.

Good luck. Enjoy the angst. Oh yeah, you may enjoy some different tastes when she cums home and you lick her pussy out.

Just put a post or 2 here. Let us know how she made out..

BTW, many mature black guys (and whites, etc), go in groups of 2's or 3's or more. That cud be very interesting...

 

[NaughtyLA2]

So, reality rears its ugly head once again. She was not happy when she came home, and it took a lot of tender husband time to get to the main reason for her mood. It seems she was approached but it was by a guy that was sloppy drunk, and he was very rude and handsy. Luckily, she was saved from being further accosted by his friends who came and extracted him from the situation with apologies and a mad rush out of the cocktail lounge. It did cause a scene and she was approached by the bartender who asked if she was alright and then by security who asked the same questions.
As bad as we both felt about this turn of events, it did result in a few concessions from both of us. She did agree that she likes to go there and the idea that she's free to indulge herself. We came to the agreement that she won't be wearing such revealing clothing. It seems that when she dresses like that, she feels too self-conscious and that inhibits her from dealing with other people. So, the plan is that she'll go there again but she will wear her regular street clothes in the interest of comfort. Even though this trip was a negative, I view our discussion about it as a positive step towards us talking about our shared journey.
The most positive result was that we talked about ways for her to interact with other guys in a safe and more controlled manner. One of the ways that I suggested was that we put up a profile for her on a dating site and then she can chat with guys who we both can screen. She didn't agree right away but she didn't shoot it down and she didn't say no.
Sorry about the delay in getting back here to report on this situation. I spent most of my time this weekend making sure I paid a lot of attention to her.

There's also the distinct possibility that staff and other customers see a woman, on her own, in a casino, wearing revealing clothes, and make certain assumptions about her *ahem* profession. There are definitely better and safer ways for her to meet people.

Oh, and if you find yourself about to say something that requires the "I'm not racist" caveat, it's probably better to just not say it at all,

 

[wormwood]

There's also the distinct possibility that staff and other customers see a woman, on her own, in a casino, wearing revealing clothes, and make certain assumptions about her *ahem* profession. There are definitely better and safer ways for her to meet people.

Oh, and if you find yourself about to say something that requires the "I'm not racist" caveat, it's probably better to just not say it at all,

Maybe in the 90's but not now. Have you been to a casino on a weekend? Club wear and sexy/revealing clothing seems to be the norm now. Also the rock on her finger and expensive tastes might dispell anyone with your mindset. She's a member of the casino club and is usually recognized by various employees. Security, wiatresses and bartenders.The guy was just a creep.
Context my friend. Context.

 

[Sgt Ray]

The staff is well trained in not judging a book, or guest, by its cover...

 

[NaughtyLA2]

Maybe in the 90's but not now. Have you been to a casino on a weekend? Club wear and sexy/revealing clothing seems to be the norm now. Also the rock on her finger and expensive tastes might dispell anyone with your mindset. She's a member of the casino club and is usually recognized by various employees. Security, wiatresses and bartenders.The guy was just a creep.
Context my friend. Context.

Yes, the guy was a creep, and I don't think anyone would argue that. But that doesn't make going to a casino alone the best or safest way to test the waters.

I'd be amazed if anyone with experience would even put it in the top 5 if they were making suggestions.

 

[wormwood]

Yes, the guy was a creep, and I don't think anyone would argue that. But that doesn't make going to a casino alone the best or safest way to test the waters.

I'd be amazed if anyone with experience would even put it in the top 5 if they were making suggestions.

I hear you but I'm taking what I can get. Neither one of us is expecting her to hook up with someone and get a hotel room. The expectation is that she'll get to see that men desire her and if she just gets sexy conversation she'll be fine. If she gets the digits, or gives hers away, to a man she feels an attraction to, even better.
Part of our after-action discussion revolved around her dressing sexy and we came to the mutual decision that she would wear her street clothes and not look to be trying so hard. Partly from an "unwanted attention" angle and partly from a comfort angle. The more comfortable she feels, the more likely she will be interacting with others.
But yeah, not an ideal way to go about it but the casino is a safe space for her. There's tons of security and cameras everywhere. Since she loves to go there, I'm comfortable with the idea that men will try to hook up with her and she gets to call the shots.